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Old 01-05-2009, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dannyell
Yep it won't get any easier than this....

What is certain that both Hamas and Israel are in violation of international laws...and while this conflicts keeps on going it seems nothing is being resolved...

I hope an Obama administration will not support Israel as much as past administrations have....at least not with this behavior
Well i agree with you in some areas, but reality is this:
-Unites States has 2 kinds of interests
1. IS NATIONAL INTERESTS WHICH ARE NONE NAGOTIABLE, WHICH MEANS, NO MATTER WHICH ADMINISTRATION IS ELECTED, THESE INTERESTS WILL NOT BE TOUCHED, and Israel is in the National Interest, Obama wount change much, and he will support Israel thats a Given
2. PERIPHERAL INTERESTS. Which are not the priority but still important to United States, they may change from Time to time.
-If we go back to what George W Bushes foreign policy was it was nothing but a failier and this is why.
1. When Condoliza Rice used to travel to Middle East, Europeans, John Kerry and even Obama used to warn republicans not to loose grip on Hezbollah, and what happend? Hezbollah become the LEGITIMATE PART OF LEBANESE GOVERNMENT, they have seats in the government.
2. Bush and Condie used to be warned regarding the hammas as well, and what happend? Hammas become the LEGITIMATE AND LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE IN HUGE AREAS OF PALESTINIAN GOVERNMENT.
So 2 of the most radical groups in the area, HAVE LEGITIMIZED THEMELVES AND THAT HAPPEND UNDER BUSH ADMINISTRATION, This is why Colin Powel was FURIOUS.
Regarding the Israel and Palestine, I'am going to be really carefull here, because this is one of the best forums it really is, and we have Jewish and Muslim members here, and i don't want to write things here that would tare everyone a part.
-Virtually via internet it is useless to discuss this issue deeply, but if i would be talking to some of our forum members then that would be different, much easier to be talking about such a sensitive subject in person.
-Homeland problems are dear to me, i as well recently experienced extreme difficulties, August war with Russia, and anexed territories.
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