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Old 04-29-2011, 10:53 PM
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Why does it say Welcome to Hawaii? And why is the Arabic script backwards, saying "Paul is Dead" And why is it in Arabic instead of Swahili?

snopes.com: Welcome to Kenya, Birthplace of Barack Obama

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Seriously? You're saying that something that happened in 1899 (that's 112 years ago for the math impaired) is still being practiced by white Americans today and that's why Obama is being asked to prove he's a US resident? Wow. Absolutely incredible. (btw- the irony of the stereotyping an entire race of people is not lost here).

Insinuating that white Americans don't understand that racism still exists in this country is ridiculous. of course it does. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that in the last 100 years race relations in America has improved. We have a black president for crying out loud, he sure as hell didn't get elected by only black people voting for him.

Should Bush have cried racism every time Whoopie Goldberg criticized him? "Whoopie hates me because I'm a white man". Sounds ridiculous doesn't it? So does Whoopie for calling Trump a racist.

Regarding point #1, you can't dictate what is acceptable to other people just because it's acceptable to you.
I think you are the one trying to set new standards. The original document he produced was completely legal, acceptable by state of Hawaii, The federal government of USA, state department and election committee. The only people that did not accept it are the birthers. Plus, how ever he got in Harvard is probably more legit than how previous president got to Yale
Fact of the matter is people should not have to resort to these kind of non-sense to debate a President....

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Old 04-29-2011, 11:17 PM
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The only people that did not accept it are the birthers.
I think there are probably two separate groups of birthers.

Firstly, there are those who honestly believe Obama was not born in the US. I am not sure there is any hope for them. Similar percentages (20%) believe that the moon landing was faked, that the sun revolves around the earth, that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time, etc.

Secondly, there are those who don't like Obama and/or his policies, which is fair, but who are using the birthers, simply stirring the pot. The issue that the latter group needs to be cognizant of is that people get judged by the company they keep, rightly or wrongly. Trump is a smart guy, but by allying himself with the birthers he looks a fool to some of us, and a hero to others.

I think if Obama had held out until there was actually a presidential race, and then produced the long form certificate, he could have made the birthers look even more foolish. I guess he got tired of waiting.
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I think there are probably two separate groups of birthers.

Firstly, there are those who honestly believe Obama was not born in the US. I am not sure there is any hope for them. Similar percentages (20%) believe that the moon landing was faked, that the sun revolves around the earth, that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time, etc.

Secondly, there are those who don't like Obama and/or his policies, which is fair, but who are using the birthers, simply stirring the pot. The issue that the latter group needs to be cognizant of is that people get judged by the company they keep, rightly or wrongly. Trump is a smart guy, but by allying himself with the birthers he looks a fool to some of us, and a hero to others.

I think if Obama had held out until there was actually a presidential race, and then produced the long form certificate, he could have made the birthers look even more foolish. I guess he got tired of waiting.
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Why does it say Welcome to Hawaii? And why is the Arabic script backwards, saying "Paul is Dead" And why is it in Arabic instead of Swahili?

snopes.com: Welcome to Kenya, Birthplace of Barack Obama

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And now Trump is going to have to answer about his past:

Donald Trump dodged Vietnam War through medical deferment, not high draft number as he claimed

See? All politicians and prospective politicians suck.
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And now Trump is going to have to answer about his past:

Donald Trump dodged Vietnam War through medical deferment, not high draft number as he claimed

See? All politicians and prospective politicians suck.
Isn't Trump Tower covered in shiny glass? Donald ought not to be throwing any more stones, as they say.

Back the original issue though, I forgot about the fact that John McCain's citizenship was also questioned during the election since he was born in the Panama Canal Zone when his father was stationed there. I am bringing this up to show that not only Obama's citizenship status that has been questioned. Googling shows how many news organizations carried the story. These are just a sample.

McCain’s Canal Zone Birth Prompts Queries About Whether That Rules Him Out - New York Times

John McCain's Panama problem - War Room - Salon.com

McCain's citizenship called into question - Nightly News - msnbc.com

McCain's Panama birth prompts eligibility probe by his campaign - Times Online
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Yep back the original issue. I guess this is not the reaction Trump expected.
I guess he didn't count on people digging thru the skeletons in his closet.
The link title is only the tip of the iceberg.....

Donald Trump Was Once Sued By Justice Department For Not Renting To Blacks

Edit: If your gonna bust somebody do it while their in the same room.

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