What's the matter with Donald Trump.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

So what now?????

What is done needs to be immediately in effect.

There is not time for impeachment and conviction and then voting to remove him from office.

The 25th. amendment is not definitive so that would mean lots of debate to clarify if his actions violate the amendment. Not enough time.

Doing nothing is a high risk choice. There is no way to know what a cornered Malignant narcissist will do except it will be violent.

I don't think there is any other established avenues such as house arrest that could be applied. Would help if someone or some number of people formally clear everything he wants to do. Sounds like there is an informal group doing that now. Another option is do something that is not clearly illegal or if illegal that removes him from office and can't be sorted out until after he is no longer a threat.

I expect the only practical action will be to watch him as close as possible using an informal process. Currently congress couldn't make a straight line to the john so I don't think doing anything significant is remotely possible. If he has a platform to incite his followers it could make what's most likely going happen anyway worse but the terrorists are already out of the bottle. Nothing further is needed. It's not if but when.

[Happy]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

What is done needs to be immediately in effect.

There is not time for impeachment and conviction and then voting to remove him from office.

The 25th. amendment is not definitive so that would mean lots of debate to clarify if his actions violate the amendment. Not enough time.

Doing nothing is a high risk choice. There is no way to know what a cornered Malignant narcissist will do except it will be violent.

I don't think there is any other established avenues such as house arrest that could be applied. Would help if someone or some number of people formally clear everything he wants to do. Sounds like there is an informal group doing that now. Another option is do something that is not clearly illegal or if illegal that removes him from office and can't be sorted out until after he is no longer a threat.

I expect the only practical action will be to watch him as close as possible using an informal process. Currently congress couldn't make a straight line to the john so I don't think doing anything significant is remotely possible. If he has a platform to incite his followers it could make what's most likely going happen anyway worse but the terrorists are already out of the bottle. Nothing further is needed. It's not if but when.

A quote from the Vice President elect,

“They’re not going to stop. They’re not going to stop,” she told him. “This is a movement, I’m telling you. They’re not gonna stop. And everyone beware because they’re not gonna stop. They’re not gonna stop before Election Day and they’re not going to stop after Election Day. And everyone should take note of that. They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”

So what steps do we take for the incitement of violence Kamala Harris is guilty of?

A veteran police officer of 38 years on the force lost his life, shot in the head. The Vice President elect went public with her views, and people died.

[AVB-AMG]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

What is done needs to be immediately in effect.

There is not time for impeachment and conviction and then voting to remove him from office.

The 25th. amendment is not definitive so that would mean lots of debate to clarify if his actions violate the amendment. Not enough time.

Doing nothing is a high risk choice. There is no way to know what a cornered Malignant narcissist will do except it will be violent.

I don't think there is any other established avenues such as house arrest that could be applied. Would help if someone or some number of people formally clear everything he wants to do. Sounds like there is an informal group doing that now. Another option is do something that is not clearly illegal or if illegal that removes him from office and can't be sorted out until after he is no longer a threat.

I expect the only practical action will be to watch him as close as possible using an informal process. Currently congress couldn't make a straight line to the john so I don't think doing anything significant is remotely possible. If he has a platform to incite his followers it could make what's most likely going happen anyway worse but the terrorists are already out of the bottle. Nothing further is needed. It's not if but when.

Bcredliner

I agree that we all are going to be holding our breath for the next ten days until Joe Biden is inaugurated as our next POTUS. Ideally, if Donald Trump had any integrity, he would resign. But, alas, we know that he does not and therefore will not.

I also agree, and have believed for the past 4-5 years that Donald Trump is unfit to hold the office of the POTUS and, after this past Wed., his words and actions pose a clear and present danger to the safety of the United States.

I do not fully know the process and procedures, let alone the realistic chances of removing Trump from office via either V.P. Pence and a majority of the Cabinet members invoking the 25th Amendment or Congress initiating another attempt at impeaching Trump. But the events of Jan. 6th require a firm and immediate response from our government to send the signal to the domestic terrorist rioters that there are severe legal penalties and consequences to their actions. At this point, those two approaches may not succeed in the remaining time that Trump is in office. Yet, one of the added very appealing benefits of a successful impeachment of Trump by the House of Representatives AND conviction by the Senate, is that it would prohibit Donald Trump from running for and holding any U.S. elected office in the future.

I do think that another option to sanction Trump’s conduct that is currently being discussed is for Congress to censure Trump in a public shaming. Essentially, it is a formal statement of condemnation, reprimand and disapproval of Trump’s actions to incite the mob at the rally to move on the U.S. Capitol. While it is mostly symbolic, it would send a strong, undeniable judgement of our elected representatives that Trump’s actions were a betrayal of his sworn duty and the rules of our Constitutional Republic. It would require the support of Congress and could conceivably be passed before Joe Biden’s inauguration on Jan. 20th. If Trump is censured, it could further reduce his chances of successfully running again for POTUS.

It will be a very interested next ten days…..

AVB-AMG

[Happy]

Originally Posted by AVB-AMG

Bcredliner

I agree that we all are going to be holding our breath for the next ten days until Joe Biden is inaugurated as our next POTUS. Ideally, if Donald Trump had any integrity, he would resign. But, alas, we know that he does not and therefore will not.

I also agree, and have believed for the past 4-5 years that Donald Trump is unfit to hold the office of the POTUS and, after this past Wed., his words and actions pose a clear and present danger to the safety of the United States.

I do not fully know the process and procedures, let alone the realistic chances of removing Trump from office via either V.P. Pence and a majority of the Cabinet members invoking the 25th Amendment or Congress initiating another attempt at impeaching Trump. But the events of Jan. 6th require a firm and immediate response from our government to send the signal to the domestic terrorist rioters that there are severe legal penalties and consequences to their actions. At this point, those two approaches may not succeed in the remaining time that Trump is in office. Yet, one of the added very appealing benefits of a successful impeachment of Trump by the House of Representatives AND conviction by the Senate, is that it would prohibit Donald Trump from running for and holding any U.S. elected office in the future.

I do think that another option to sanction Trump’s conduct that is currently being discussed is for Congress to censure Trump in a public shaming. Essentially, it is a formal statement of condemnation, reprimand and disapproval of Trump’s actions to incite the mob at the rally to move on the U.S. Capitol. While it is mostly symbolic, it would send a strong, undeniable judgement of our elected representatives that Trump’s actions were a betrayal of his sworn duty and the rules of our Constitutional Republic. It would require the support of Congress and could conceivably be passed before Joe Biden’s inauguration on Jan. 20th. If Trump is censured, it could further reduce his chances of successfully running again for POTUS.

It will be a very interested next ten days…..

AVB-AMG

I for one, do not agree totally with this statement by any means.

[Maruzo]

Originally Posted by AVB-AMG

Bcredliner

I agree that we all are going to be holding our breath for the next ten days until Joe Biden is inaugurated as our next POTUS. Ideally, if Donald Trump had any integrity, he would resign. But, alas, we know that he does not and therefore will not.

I also agree, and have believed for the past 4-5 years that Donald Trump is unfit to hold the office of the POTUS and, after this past Wed., his words and actions pose a clear and present danger to the safety of the United States.

I do not fully know the process and procedures, let alone the realistic chances of removing Trump from office via either V.P. Pence and a majority of the Cabinet members invoking the 25th Amendment or Congress initiating another attempt at impeaching Trump. But the events of Jan. 6th require a firm and immediate response from our government to send the signal to the domestic terrorist rioters that there are severe legal penalties and consequences to their actions. At this point, those two approaches may not succeed in the remaining time that Trump is in office. Yet, one of the added very appealing benefits of a successful impeachment of Trump by the House of Representatives AND conviction by the Senate, is that it would prohibit Donald Trump from running for and holding any U.S. elected office in the future.

I do think that another option to sanction Trump’s conduct that is currently being discussed is for Congress to censure Trump in a public shaming. Essentially, it is a formal statement of condemnation, reprimand and disapproval of Trump’s actions to incite the mob at the rally to move on the U.S. Capitol. While it is mostly symbolic, it would send a strong, undeniable judgement of our elected representatives that Trump’s actions were a betrayal of his sworn duty and the rules of our Constitutional Republic. It would require the support of Congress and could conceivably be passed before Joe Biden’s inauguration on Jan. 20th. If Trump is censured, it could further reduce his chances of successfully running again for POTUS.

It will be a very interested next ten days…..

AVB-AMG

You are right about the strategic benefits of impeaching Trump the second time. There's a strong possibility of disqualifying Trump from running for any type of public office ever again.

Even though the timing might not be there to successfully remove him before his time is up, but the Congress and the Senate should actively try and reduce his ability to create more murderous problems for our republic in the next 10 days.

[Maruzo]

Yawn. Really, just yawn.

[Happy]

Originally Posted by Maruzo

Yawn. Really, just yawn.

Maybe you should get some sleep.

[upallnight]

Still, upset because I wouldn't fall into your silly trap?

Originally Posted by Happy

I know what you want me to say, but I'm not going to fall for your Gotcha statement.

Only 6 more posts before I hit 7000 posts.

[Happy]

Originally Posted by upallnight

Still, upset because I wouldn't fall into your silly trap?

What in God’s good name are you talking about.!? There’s no trap! LoL..! Only the crap you stepped yourself into.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Happy

What in God’s good name are you talking about.!? There’s no trap! LoL..! Only the crap you stepped yourself into.

The number of years as a member doesn't mean anything. Who has the faster X5 doesn't mean anything. Number of posts is meaningful when they help others. Insults speak to ones character and usually begin when ones knowledge bank is empty.