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eddii 04-07-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by watrob
I am sticking to my new order of a 35d M-Sport with 20" everyother option and 600nm of torque, its got nearly everything the same, even twin turbo's as well, just 2 pistons less!:rofl: and probably better resale!

Dont forget to mention great fuel economy ;)

eddii 04-07-2009 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JT///MC
Ok, just the simple fact that its a regular automatic slushbox that just shifts faster tells me its marketing. If they threw in a DICT box then I know they're serious.

Maybe if you knew the real mantra of ///M then you would realize that this is just meant to squeeze more $$$ out of ppl for an X5 with a nicer motor, sportier body kit, sportier suspension, and bigger brakes.

Real ///M cars were meant to run at the track straight off the streets. Over the years this has been diluted quite a bit to mass market cars. At least with current ///M cars they're offered with manual transmissions. Besides, does anyone plan on taking an X5 to the track? Seriously.

If you put DICT box in these cars then BMW might struggle to sell the next generation M5's and M6's.
Imagine, why would you buy a more expensive car (M5 or M6) when you can have a "cheaper" SUV with similar spec (V8tt engine and DICT g/box)?
I'd rather keep the change and have a huge bootspace:p:

StanF18 04-07-2009 11:05 AM

Everybody's a friggin' critic. "The holes on the front are too big, they're not big enough, they're diluting the M brand, it's not track-able, waah, waah, waah...".

Please stop pretending that you don't want one. As Mel Brooks said to the fair maiden in "History of the World" (after she told him she "does not DO such things"): "Of course you DO it. We all DO it. You know you DO it. You LOVE to do it. Hell, I just did it, and I want to do it again."

Hans_ACS 04-07-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by StanF18
Everybody's a friggin' critic. "The holes on the front are too big, they're not big enough, they're diluting the M brand, it's not track-able, waah, waah, waah...".

Please stop pretending that you don't want one. As Mel Brooks said to the fair maiden in "History of the World" (after she told him she "does not DO such things"): "Of course you DO it. We all DO it. You know you DO it. You LOVE to do it. Hell, I just did it, and I want to do it again."

Post of the year 2009 and so true!
At least I admit I want one :)

bmwman3241 04-07-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by StanF18
Everybody's a friggin' critic. "The holes on the front are too big, they're not big enough, they're diluting the M brand, it's not track-able, waah, waah, waah...".

Please stop pretending that you don't want one. As Mel Brooks said to the fair maiden in "History of the World" (after she told him she "does not DO such things"): "Of course you DO it. We all DO it. You know you DO it. You LOVE to do it. Hell, I just did it, and I want to do it again."

:iagree:
It may not be the best design, but its a BMW, an ///M, and an SUV. What more could you want.
I know I will buy one and many others will.

Pex5 04-07-2009 02:51 PM

The bar has been raised
 
1st, I think its a great decision to go M with the SUVs in light of the recession. Porsche has made a killing on the Cayenne and will likely rake plenty in with the Panamera. And that brings me to the last point of this post. I respect all brands, but I can't hide my pride that BMW has shown up the Cayenne. I love Porsche, but there is an idea that escapes so many novice car enthusiasts; which is that Porsche's status as a manufacturer is nearly entirely based on the 911's mystique. To their credit, the people at Stuttgart stuck with a flawed idea and constantly refined it and honed it. And therein lies the success and unique character of a 911 (and to a certain extent the boxster/cayman). This is undeniable fact. Equally undeniable is the fact that neither a Cayenne nor a Panamera can claim membership in this club of refining an unconventional layout. Their layouts are 100% traditional with V8 engines up front like every other SUV and sedan before them. They do, and I'm sure will, have Porsche 'touches' no doubt (brake technology, suspension tuning, styling etc.) but in my opinion, given their prices (well optioned), neither of these cars sell well the moment you take the crest off the hood. They both provide the 911 lover with something that has a Porsche badge and is way more comfortable so they can put 20,000+ miles a year on. I believe that BMW's X Ms, particularly due to the amazing rear differentials, are going to demonstrate what anyone whose driven a Cayenne (aside from the Turbo or GTS) knows, which is that the actual dynamics and handling capabilities of a Cayenne are in no shape or form superior to an X5. They never have been. (see youtube video of a Cayenne GTS vs. an X5 4.8 - down 55 hp and with non M sport suspension, the X5 finished the 1.5 min lap less than 2 sec. behind) How has BMW exposed the true limitations of the Cayenne? By doing what I'd bet Porsche has feared most from the moment it decided to develop the Cayenne along with VW: take engine power completely out of the equation by offering a true match to the Turbo S. Previously, the fact that the turbo Cayenne far out powered its competition took emphasis off handling and chassis differences. Now you can compare an X5M to a Cayenne Turbo S without any footnotes or preconditions. The fact that a fully loaded X5 M should be about $40,000.00 less while it beats the 2009 Cayenne Turbo S to 60 and then rounds the Nurburgring faster can't hurt either... :) I'm certain Porsche has been working on a "Red October" to counter this threat.... In the mean time, kudos to the power-crazed maniacs at Motorsport division!

chilliwilli 04-07-2009 04:01 PM

Not to mention what this means for the rest of the ///M fleet. Considering what they're able to produce with a 5000+lbs SUV (SAV)...i can only imagine what they'll accomplish with the same engine and 1000+lbs less of mass to haul.

Next up...KERS technology :thumbup:

StumpyPete 04-07-2009 04:11 PM

frankly I'd love one, but there isn't a hope in hell of me ever buying one!

watrob 04-07-2009 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by StumpyPete
frankly I'd love one, but there isn't a hope in hell of me ever buying one!

I love BMW's, this X5 M is no DD and is no sports car. I drive X5's as DD and my M3 & AMG are my sports cars. Yes I think BMW needed to make a statement but other than the States I don't think its will be a big seller anywhere else. The dealers here don't even want to carry the normal V8 X5 and fuel in a lot of countries is just too expensive now and further V8's here have poor resale value.

It's not worth it for me to have it sitting in the garage until the weekend comes and I don't think a wife will drive one to carry the kids around in!

I would love one but there are a lot of cars I would love before this but go BMW!:thumbup:

PS. They cannot give the X6's away here, know one wants them!

King 04-07-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by watrob
I love BMW's, this X5 M is no DD and is no sports car. I drive X5's as DD and my M3 & AMG are my sports cars. Yes I think BMW needed to make a statement but other than the States I don't think its will be a big seller anywhere else. The dealers here don't even want to carry the normal V8 X5 and fuel in a lot of countries is just too expensive now and further V8's here have poor resale value.

It's not worth it for me to have it sitting in the garage until the weekend comes and I don't think a wife will drive one to carry the kids around in!

I would love one but there are a lot of cars I would love before this but go BMW!:thumbup:

PS. They cannot give the X6's away here, know one wants them!

Perhaps not in the land down under, but let's not forget the U.S. is BMW's largest market by far!


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