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X53Jay4.8is 03-28-2016 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by williamx5 (Post 1073592)
Good day all!!

I am looking into getting a reliable valve spring compressor... Or maybe make one with parts from another set I have... In the mean time, I'm reaching out for your thoughts on the bearings and rings... Should I stay with the factory items "just cause" or would it be just fine to look into aftermarket piston rings and rod bearings?? I found a set of pistons, rings, pins, and locking clips on ebay for $350... That is for everything... I think one set of rings for ONE piston is something like $217 from BMW (according to realoem dot com)... Is that right?! Or did I read that incorrectly?? And what are your thoughts about the Victor / Reinz gasket sets?

Think it would be bad to reuse the piston rings after I clean them up to "like-new" condition?! That is what I have done in the past without any negative effects, even long term...

Okay, I'm off to look for a valve spring compressor I like!

Cheers!!

I would use the OE BMW Gaskets and not the victor Reinz ones. Vitron in the rubber seals makes a huge difference on longevity. I can't give you a recommendation on the piston rings. I v'e never had a set of rings go. They do last a long time from what I have experienced. Seeing that you have this engine opened wide open I am still of the opinion that I would install all new and good quality parts (rings and bearings) back into the block. You have come so far with this project.

admranger 03-28-2016 06:31 PM

I'm not a fan of Total Seal rings. They either work or they don't and you're hating life. Some people have better luck than others with them...

I can't remember the mileage on this motor...please post it (again if you've already posted it and I missed it above).

I forgot to ask how you fun her? Random luck or ?

Also, if you could post pics of all the rod bearings, that'd be useful for something else I'm doing wrt the S65 motor (rod bearing failures are surprisingly high w/the S65).

Thanks for documenting this!

williamx5 03-29-2016 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by admranger (Post 1073651)
Also, if you could post pics of all the rod bearings, that'd be useful for something else I'm doing wrt the S65 motor (rod bearing failures are surprisingly high w/the S65).

Thanks for documenting this!

Absolutely!!! This is actually fun for me!!

Here is what I have for the following cylinders... I didn't pull all 8 cylinders, but I hope this would get you started.. I'll post the other five if you need to see all 8...

This is cyl 4...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/HGXYpF.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/ZNVe0m.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/SnZAmi.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/CT5UHC.jpg

This is cyl 6...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/8MFjDe.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Tgj5tc.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/s3hZ5a.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/YUgks7.jpg

And cyl 7...
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/z5LggY.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/9ReNOf.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/noSIqd.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/EDQFye.jpg

There you go...

Cheers!!

williamx5 03-29-2016 02:55 PM

Good day all!!

Okay, so I am going over my list of parts I need and I'm coming up with a lot of questions concerning the kits!! I can't get a positive verification what parts are in the kits... The kit is $229... The list I do have concerning the parts in the kit don't add up to the kit price... It's almost like being charged a fee for putting the kit together... Which doesn't make sense...

Is there anyone out there that knows what the kits consist of?! My list isn't complete yet, and I'm almost at $1795 for parts alone... That doesn't include bearings because I want to make sure I get the right size after the parts come back from the machine shop... Nor the three pistons I have to replace...

Here are the part numbers for the two kits... 11110304864 and 11127518017...

Thanks all!!!

Cheers!!

admranger 03-29-2016 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamx5 (Post 1073767)
Good day all!!

Okay, so I am going over my list of parts I need and I'm coming up with a lot of questions concerning the kits!! I can't get a positive verification what parts are in the kits... The kit is $229... The list I do have concerning the parts in the kit don't add up to the kit price... It's almost like being charged a fee for putting the kit together... Which doesn't make sense...

Is there anyone out there that knows what the kits consist of?! My list isn't complete yet, and I'm almost at $1795 for parts alone... That doesn't include bearings because I want to make sure I get the right size after the parts come back from the machine shop... Nor the three pistons I have to replace...

Here are the part numbers for the two kits... 11110304864 and 11127518017...

Thanks all!!!

Cheers!!

Have you looked at using BMW PNPC software to compare prices across multiple vendors?

Still curious about the mileage on the X5. Those bearings look pretty good (#4 is a bit sketch), assuming about 80k-100k miles or so on the engine.

williamx5 03-30-2016 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by admranger (Post 1073813)
Have you looked at using BMW PNPC software to compare prices across multiple vendors?

Still curious about the mileage on the X5. Those bearings look pretty good (#4 is a bit sketch), assuming about 80k-100k miles or so on the engine.

Good day!!

I'm not familiar with that software... I'll look into it. I have a great vendor with a good bit of discounted prices for OEM parts, but others are a little "dealership inflated"...

I don't have the battery connected, but IIRC, it is somewhere around 164,853... That is on the truck, but I'm not positive it's the original motor...

Thanks much!!

Cheers!!

SlickGT1 03-30-2016 11:11 AM

BMW Part Number Price Comparison: About

get that. it doesn't even install. Just runs on your pc. It is really cool.

Also, if you don't mind waiting on shipping, I would give Craig at Open Road BMW a call. He gives BMW clubs discounts, to the tune of 15% over cost. Just say you are from xoutpost club and that's it. [email protected] 732-839-4548. You will rarely get a better price.

But still, compare it with the pnc tool above.

williamx5 03-30-2016 12:30 PM

Good day all!!

Thanks for the info on PNPC!!!

I got the parts list for the two kits thanks to my local dealer!!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/TNEZxR.png

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/TXmtPw.png

I hope this helps someone else out!!!

Cheers!!

admranger 03-30-2016 10:45 PM

Wow, nearly 165k miles! Those bearings look damn good for that many miles. Thanks.

williamx5 04-01-2016 08:27 PM

Good day all!!!

I just have to share this with everyone!! Maybe it is me expecting too much!! Oh, I don't know... Am I over reacting here?! So, the deal is that I got a set of 8 piston/rod combs off ebay... The feedback was 99.9% so I figured they were a good choice...

I got the set of 8 piston/rod combs in a bag that was in a box with paper around the bag as filler... Yep... 8 piston/rod combos tossed in a bag with nothing but air to keep them apart... Not one made it to my house in useable condition... What a complete waste of perfectly good parts!! So frustrating!! And the search continues!! All I need are three pistons... I'm sure I can reuse the rods!!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/ehBofX.jpg

This is the first one I pulled out...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/1V6vvJ.jpg

I'm working out the details on my valve spring compressor using the one for my Jag XK8 rebuild....

Cheers for now!!!


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