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koister2001 03-27-2009 03:17 AM

I think I have an old version of OBD-II in my X. (2000/05 build). It may actually miss terminal 15, whatever that is. I eyeballed the connector pins and confirmed that there are several unconnceted pins compared to my 330ci. FYI, here's the OBD-II connector diagram.
http://thumbnails2.imagebam.com/3093/bc883230926669.gif

I will double check what's connected in both of my vehicles. Jose, please check with yours and report which pins you have.

On the other hand, I don't have the same error with my 330ci but have a new error.

http://thumbnails4.imagebam.com/3093/a4817630926358.gif

Can anybody help?

koister2001 03-27-2009 04:25 AM

I made some progress tonight. I swapped the 16 pin connector with the 20 pin and connected to the OBD port inside the engine room. Guess what? it worked!!! the programming was very straightforward.
Thanks Jose for your inputs.

I think that later models may not have an OBD port under the hood or the pin layout might be different than the older one like mine. Anyway, it worked for me. Great!

However, the problem with my 330ci persists. I am pretty sure it does not have a second OBD port inside the engine room (need to do some research), so it may not be easy to troubleshoot it without expert's inputs from you guys.

Weasel 03-27-2009 07:59 AM

If you have the round 20-pin connector under the hood you have to use that one. So for the early year X5s you will be hooking up under the hood. It should be near the firewall on the passengers side.

**OOPS** didn't read your last post, you found it already :thumbup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by koister2001
I got it hooked up tonight and have the power issue.
http://thumbnails12.imagebam.com/309...c830923535.gif

I checked the connection with the head and confirmed that it is connected okay.

With this power issue, I can't advance from this menu

http://thumbnails15.imagebam.com/309...5c30923536.gif

Can anyone tell me what terminal 15 is?
And I don't quite get how DIS reads voltage because there is no direct power connection to the head. In the GT1 manual, it must refer to the battery voltage of the GT1 unit. Does that mean it measures the voltage of the laptop in our setup? I have connected my laptop to the power outlet so thought it won't cause the voltage problem..


TwinsPoppa 03-27-2009 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koister2001
I made some progress tonight. I swapped the 16 pin connector with the 20 pin and connected to the OBD port inside the engine room. Guess what? it worked!!! the programming was very straightforward.
Thanks Jose for your inputs.

I think that later models may not have an OBD port under the hood or the pin layout might be different than the older one like mine. Anyway, it worked for me. Great!

However, the problem with my 330ci persists. I am pretty sure it does not have a second OBD port inside the engine room (need to do some research), so it may not be easy to troubleshoot it without expert's inputs from you guys.

Great, glad you got it working.

I was going to suggest the exact thing. As I understand it, the round connector is a BMW proprietary connector. So, for later models BMW went with the standard OBD connector.

Obviously, all my DIY are for facelift models but maybe you can help out now. Can you take pics of the location in the engine compartment and of the actual connection then post or send it to me. Then we can add it to the first post. I'm going to add the pics I have of how to connect the cables so that would help.

On the 330ci .. what year is it?

koister2001 03-27-2009 02:18 PM

Thanks Weasel for your suggestions. :thumbup:
Quote:

Originally Posted by weasel56
If you have the round 20-pin connector under the hood you have to use that one. So for the early year X5s you will be hooking up under the hood. It should be near the firewall on the passengers side.

**OOPS** didn't read your last post, you found it already :thumbup:


koister2001 03-27-2009 02:22 PM

Thanks Jose,

I will definitely take some pictures of the setup for pre-facelift models. If $tealers can do, we can do! :D
My 330ci is 2001 (2001/05 build). I will go over the document and report the progresses. One thing that I realized is that I have to put the gear in neutral (I am 5 speed) before running DIS. Hopefully that unlocks the mystery.
Weasel, have any other suggestions for the issue with my 3?
Quote:

Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa
Great, glad you got it working.

I was going to suggest the exact thing. As I understand it, the round connector is a BMW proprietary connector. So, for later models BMW went with the standard OBD connector.

Obviously, all my DIY are for facelift models but maybe you can help out now. Can you take pics of the location in the engine compartment and of the actual connection then post or send it to me. Then we can add it to the first post. I'm going to add the pics I have of how to connect the cables so that would help.

On the 330ci .. what year is it?


cjawahir 03-28-2009 03:53 PM

hi, found this info how to install the software for gt1 ...

>>BMW DIS Installation

cj

TwinsPoppa 03-28-2009 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weasel56
It not being encoded wouldn't really affect the running of her, but should be dealt with. And why pay the dealer 1 hour labor to encode it when you are now equipt to do so yourself? I'd give it a try! Just go through the programming button on the main start page instead of clicking diagnosis, click zcs coding (I think that's what they call is, been a while since I used that software) Select encoding, select DME, and follow the instructions. It is pretty easy, and the encoding goes real quick. You should be able to figure it out easily! Then go back into diagnosis and the fault should be not present and able to clear on the first try. And a hint to save time, don't do a full short test, just click on DME and short test that module individually, then clear fault memory through control module functions. Easy as 1-2-pie! :thumbup:

Hey weasel .. the DME fault returned.:(

I tried to find how to encode the DME but am lost (wow ... surprise, surprise :rolleyes: ). Here are the screenshots starting from the Coding/Programming main menu:

ZCS/FA Coding
http://thumbnails10.imagebam.com/310...c431075655.gif http://thumbnails4.imagebam.com/3108/b4245c31075663.gif http://thumbnails13.imagebam.com/310...ec31075671.gif http://thumbnails8.imagebam.com/3108/3939b431075677.gif http://thumbnails4.imagebam.com/3108/e3b83f31075682.gif http://thumbnails15.imagebam.com/310...3631075686.gif http://thumbnails10.imagebam.com/310...8d31075688.gif http://thumbnails8.imagebam.com/3108/2cf49131075691.gif

Should I have continued with MOTRONIC?

I also tried this:
http://thumbnails14.imagebam.com/310...d131075652.gif http://thumbnails13.imagebam.com/310...a131075658.gif http://thumbnails10.imagebam.com/310...2031075667.gif http://thumbnails13.imagebam.com/310...7631075674.gif

TwinsPoppa 03-28-2009 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koister2001
Thanks Jose,

I will definitely take some pictures of the setup for pre-facelift models. If $tealers can do, we can do! :D
My 330ci is 2001 (2001/05 build). I will go over the document and report the progresses. One thing that I realized is that I have to put the gear in neutral (I am 5 speed) before running DIS. Hopefully that unlocks the mystery.
Weasel, have any other suggestions for the issue with my 3?

Okay, koister2001 just confimed to me that the issue with his 330ci was the same as his X. Apparently, if you have a manual tranny just stick it in neutral! :D :rofl:

Weasel 03-28-2009 10:30 PM

Yeah, I forgot they call it motronic in there... But that would be it. (even if it wasn't it wouldn't have caused any harm though) :thumbup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa
Hey weasel .. the DME fault returned.:(

I tried to find how to encode the DME but am lost (wow ... surprise, surprise :rolleyes: ). Here are the screenshots starting from the Coding/Programming main menu:

ZCS/FA Coding
(random images of kids on slip and slide)
Should I have continued with MOTRONIC?

I also tried this:
(random images of kids on space walk)



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