Solved, Help pls.! Crashed my Mk4 :-(

DK540iA · #1 08-15-2008, 11:13 AM

Need a bit of help - sorry
I'm new member here, but have browsed the forum since I changed my E32 with an E39 540 from 11/97 with an aftermounted Mk4.

I've updated it to V31 (version 10.0) - later downgraded to V29, and upgraded to V31 with modded splashscreen - all went fine and have been enjoyed a lot.

Then I today thought I would add "Mortens 540iA" to the MENU line, so I
modded navboot and the two version files and re-burned the ISO.

Went to the car and put the key in pos1 - NAV booted and I removed the NAV DVD.
Inserted the new modded V31 CD and the NAV did as last time....
After a little while it said - "Updating your software... it can take up to 6 minutes"
After 15 minutes it still said the same and now I can't get the CD out
(so I could try to insert the previous used V29 and V31)
I have tried to hold the eject for minutes - tried to rapidly push it,
have un-mounted the NAVI DVD drive and taken off power - hold eject while reconnecting it.
CD is still in :-(
And when I put on ignition - again says "updating your software"

HELP Please

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BertusE46 · #2 08-15-2008, 11:39 AM

Hi,

Look here: Tips for removing stuck CD from navigation drive

Good Luck!

BertusE46

DK540iA · #3 08-15-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BertusE46

Hi,

Look here: Tips for removing stuck CD from navigation drive

Good Luck!

BertusE46

Thanks for the tip, but I've even printed it out... last is to pull the drive apart..... I hope some can give a tip on how to get it out without doing that.

DK540iA · #4 08-15-2008, 12:35 PM

I decided that while I had the drive out and the warrenty no longer exist,
to remove the top from the drive and take out the CD manually

Now I'm a bit nervous to see what happens when I re-mount the drive.
Will it still say - Upgrading, will it be blank, will it accept the old used CD (and re-install) or will my NAV be dead.

DK540iA · #5 08-15-2008, 02:03 PM

Solved the problem
After re-mounting the DVD/NAVI unit without the CD it sounded wierd

It was the motor for the drive that wasn't mounted correctly (gear wasn't engaged)
After fixing that and once more re-mounting the DVD/NAVI unit, the screen was blank.
Thank god it accepted the previous modified CD and I am now back
running version 10.00 modified with own splashscreen.

Back is to figure out what went wrong
1 the modifications I made to navboot caused the error
2 bad CD - used same brand as the working ones.... will try a new one

DK540iA · #6 08-15-2008, 05:12 PM

It was apparently the CD (a RW) that was bad or the way I modified the version, as I have now down-/upgraded 3 times since.

Now I just need to find a good guide on how to change the France language and voice to Danish (well a mix of Danish and English as not all places can be changed as far as I know)

KiwiJochen · #7 08-16-2008, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DK540iA

It was apparently the CD (a RW) that was bad or the way I modified the version, as I have now down-/upgraded 3 times since.

Now I just need to find a good guide on how to change the France language and voice to Danish (well a mix of Danish and English as not all places can be changed as far as I know)

To change languages to any other standard language use NavCoder - this can set any of the 3 stored languages to any other language.

If you want another voice for you nav than is not one of the standard UK, US, DE, FR, IT, ES, NL, then you need to decide on what language you want as the base language (eg: UK) and then change the appropriate voice language file. Menu and text will stay eg English but voice will change.

I have files for lots of other languages, PM me your email address and I'll dig up the Danish language

DK540iA · #8 08-16-2008, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen

To change languages to any other standard language use NavCoder - this can set any of the 3 stored languages to any other language.

If you want another voice for you nav than is not one of the standard UK, US, DE, FR, IT, ES, NL, then you need to decide on what language you want as the base language (eg: UK) and then change the appropriate voice language file. Menu and text will stay eg English but voice will change.

I have files for lots of other languages, PM me your email address and I'll dig up the Danish language

Hi - thanks very much, but I have the DK voice file, which I found here:
http://www.xoutpost.com/386757-post189.html
I also know that it is possible to get the menu in Danish:
http://picasaweb.google.com/RiverCliff16/BimmerNav

I have decided to replace the FR (I have UK, FR and DE) language/voice/menu to Danish,
but I don't want any menu shown in Frence - is this possible ?
My idea was to replace the FR with UK (so I have two UK) and then replace the voice for this with the DK voice and edit/translate the text to Danish.
I then hope the remaining text (f.i. in the instrument and TMC) will be in English and NOT Frence.
Will this work - and how to do it ???
(I do have search the forum for a guide on how to.
I have found a few (f.i. yours here: http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/293615)
but haven't found any that's detailed enough for me to do it)

KiwiJochen · #9 08-16-2008, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DK540iA

Hi - thanks very much, but I have the DK voice file, which I found here:
http://www.xoutpost.com/386757-post189.html
I also know that it is possible to get the menu in Danish:
http://picasaweb.google.com/RiverCliff16/BimmerNav

That person must have translated the text himself.

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Originally Posted by DK540iA

I have decided to replace the FR (I have UK, FR and DE) language/voice/menu to Danish,
but I don't want any menu shown in Frence - is this possible ?

Yes, but you must first change the language to UK.

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Originally Posted by DK540iA

My idea was to replace the FR with UK (so I have two UK) and then replace the voice for this with the DK voice and edit/translate the text to Danish.

That's the right way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DK540iA

I then hope the remaining text (f.i. in the instrument and TMC) will be in English and NOT Frence.

Correct, because French will not exist, as long as you change the langauge in the car from FR to UK BEFORE you start altering the OS.

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Originally Posted by DK540iA

Will this work - and how to do it ???

1. Change languages in car to UK (1), UK (2) and DE
2. Modify the 4-1/100 OS, create a 4-1/101 version as follows:
3. Replace UK (1) voice file with DK voice file, rename to same as UK filename
4. Translate all UK text to DK, using NavTweak to alter files on OS disc.
5. Change version number to 4-1/101 to ensure update occurs.
6. Load new OS

The tool you need is NavTweak to alter text, and NavCoder to load the new languages.

DK540iA · #10 08-16-2008, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen

1. Change languages in car to UK (1), UK (2) and DE
2. Modify the 4-1/100 OS, create a 4-1/101 version as follows:
3. Replace UK (1) voice file with DK voice file, rename to same as UK filename
4. Translate all UK text to DK, using NavTweak to alter files on OS disc.
5. Change version number to 4-1/101 to ensure update occurs.
6. Load new OS

The tool you need is NavTweak to alter text, and NavCoder to load the new languages.

Thought a bit about that way...
If I change the languages in the car so it have two UK (can NavCoder do that?),
what will happen when I change the UK menu text and replace UK voice file ?
Wont it change BOTH UK language options to my new text and speak Danish regardless of which I choose ??
That is no good - it should be:
1 the existing UK as it is,
2 FR change to DK/UK mix,
3 DE not touched nor used
Or how will it know which UK to choose ?

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