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Old 04-30-2015, 10:07 PM
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James, I have some advice, buy the MTM foam cannon if you are going to soap up the vehicle, this one even comes with the proper Karcher fitting and is designed for Electric PW's.

I just bought a Ryobi 1700psi 1.2 gpm from Home Depot for $128 with a 20% off HF coupon used. Has aluminum pump, brass fittings, and 3 year warranty. Amazing value. Comes with Turbo nozzle, 15 degree, and a soap dispensing nozzle.

I am looking to improve my time and efficiency, as well as use less water. So when I do a pre-rinse, then foam the car, then rinse again. Then I disconnect the hose from the PW, connect my hose end foam gun (Griots or Gilmour), use one bucket as a "rinse" bucket, and just shoot suds into my wash media using the foam gun. Sounds like it takes a while but actually with shut off valves and QC's on the hose, PW, and gun, its probably a 15 minute process to get the whole X done.

Then I disconnect the gun, hook up the gentle rinse nozzle to the PW, and give a final rinse. I do the wheels/tires separately usually and before the actual wash (those do take longer)

We have been speaking on a detailing forum lately about touchless car cleaning, and with a max of 1600psi, you should be able to foam up the vehicle, and if keeping the turbo tip 6 feet or so away from the paint you can probably let the tip and machine do the work for you, doing a touchless wash that is.

Here is the link for the MTM Hydro lance:

MTM Hydro Professional 2600 PSI Adjustable Foamer | eBay

I also have been theorizing lately that I can most likely use an electric leaf blower to blow-dry the car, just need to put a foam filter by the intake in order to make it "filtered" air. Would love to have a Master Blaster to blowdry but not shelling out $400 to do so.


Link to the thread. I don't really hang my hat at Detailing forums.

Unless I am reading this wrong, I HIGHLY suggest to NOT USE A TURBO tip to wash your car. It's pretty agressive.....I wouldn't even use it on concrete...
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Old 04-30-2015, 10:33 PM
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Yeah, that turbo tip is a tiny (around 1mm) stream that swirls.

I threw that turbo lance in a workbench drawer, will stick with the vario-lance & foam lance.
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Old 05-01-2015, 09:53 AM
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Link to the thread. I don't really hang my hat at Detailing forums.

Unless I am reading this wrong, I HIGHLY suggest to NOT USE A TURBO tip to wash your car. It's pretty agressive.....I wouldn't even use it on concrete...
Its on a FB forum on a private group, email Garry Dean @ [email protected] if you'd like his opinion on it as the idea has come from a video he has done

Like I said, that Turbo tip is meant to be a good 6-7 feet away and never use it with a PW more than 1600 psi or so. I've seen a video with it used on wheels/tires and no damage, however its definitely a professional technique and needs to be far from the surface.

I haven't done it personally i'm just saying its something that's been discussed. I have no problem cleaning with the regular 15 degree tip that came with my PW, and doing a gentle rinse with the soap tip
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GD - I'll pass on watching the video.....too many GD wash techniques videos to date ;->

Hmmmmm....I'm going to have to dig around on the video.

RB. Are you familiar with a Turbo tip. Like I said.....I would not even use it to clean concrete, and I have tons of tips....

My favorite are just traditional ceramic tips, sized for the application at hand.
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Old 05-01-2015, 01:04 PM
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^Well now that he has RawDetailTV its a paid subscription (and no I don't pay for it)

Yes I am familiar with the turbo tip, I actually may try it on my garage floor this weekend (been neglected for 20+ years), on a gas washer its going to be ridiculous.

However on the electrics it shouldn't be too bad. I have some lawn equipment to clean up as well, depending on how the garage floor cleaning goes, I MAY try it at a very large distance to clean up my lawn mower.

I like the traditional ceramic tips as well, I wish all PW's came with a full set of tips (soap, 0, 15, 25, 40) because its annoying when you buy a PW with a turbo tip (they call it a "bonus") and a soap tip and one high pressure tip lol
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I've got a 2 electrics and a gas. On the 240V electric....the turbo will do damage to crete, IMO. I'll try it this weekend with the same turbo tip on the smaller electric. Interesting debate I suppose....just need to see the video to see the technique. Maybe he's using a larger orifice turbo nozzle against the machines gpm/psi, etc. I just can't wrap my head around it re: the recommended use of it though...
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Old 05-01-2015, 03:58 PM
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I'm going to email Garry and see if he can send it to you. It is an interesting concept but he did specifically say to start out approx 8 feet back, and not use it on a machine with higher psi than 1600.

Agree with you on the 240V electric machine, thats too much juice and psi. I believe he was using the turbo nozzle that comes with the Karcher machine as well in the video. Personally I don't think the turbo nozzles that come with the lower psi consumer machines are as bad as say a mid-grade gas machine.

After my tests on cleaning the floor etc to get a feel for the cleaning power vs. distance away, I may give it a whirl on the wheels and tires and shoot a video for you with my Ryobi
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Wink

LOL. Okay, I don't own any Karchers....
Cam Spray on the weekend details, and the other 2 are full blown commercial engines/pumps.

Regardless, I do think that preaching a turbo nozzle is DUMB and ones needs extreme prejudice to use it, as well as the knowledge/breath to make sure that that turbo nozzle is sized right for the machine specs you are using and or oversize, which would decrease it's psi.

We're beating heads here....but that's just because my 2 cents just says whhhhhhaaatt...when I hear turbo nozzle.

You can have weekend warriors running out to get turbo nozzles and just following like the GDWRM, etc without even looking at the specs/size of the nozzle relative to the machine they are using....

For those into detailing, I have searched for years to find a truely touchless method, and even with a PW, it always requires some mechanical agitation.

Maybe RB might convince me to use a Turbo Nozzle
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Four thing are required before have a CHANCE of getting into a truly touchless routine.

1) Good coat of QUALITY wax and plastic/rubber conditioner.

2) Regular washes, like weekly.

3) Serious high volume blower (I'm going with a gas 220mph Echo backpack).

4) Filtered/softened water.
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I just read this thread from the 1st post.
IMO/IME, u really need to try various soaps with your water conditions....
MOST will do a decent job at foaming the beejezus out of it, and it may look impressive.
Oftentimes, depending on soap, you are guaranteed at least a whole bunch of Lubricity.


I do it just because I own the damm gun, and I love love LOOOOOBRICITY

But using PH neutral soaps does not do much to dirt in the real world for me....
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