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To kill someone with a knife or baseball bat you need to be up close and personal, not shooting down from the 32nd floor of a building.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_attack
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So what was the best way to get easy access to your gun in an X5?
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X5 4.6 2002 Black Sap, Black interior. 2013 X5M Melbourne Red, Bamboo interior Dallas Last edited by bcredliner; 10-18-2017 at 12:42 PM. |
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I'd much rather fight a guy armed with a baseball bat or a knife than a gun.
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As Sean Connery said in the Movie "The Untouchable" you don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
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Digital Competition Systems The older I get... The faster I was... No Fear Last edited by Overboost; 10-18-2017 at 05:59 PM. |
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Many articles have covered the lack of correlation between gun carry laws and deaths. Here is an example:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.699e5262bf21 I was wrong earlier when I said half of the gun deaths are from suicide, apparently it's actually closer to 2/3. I found a table that split out suicide vs homicide vs accident, I thought it was at wiki or CDC but I'm only finding the total deaths. The total rate for USA is about 11/100k but homicide is about 4.5. That is high but will not be reduced by *any* kind of new law. Reducing the accessibility of handguns to the mentally disturbed and reduce the incentive to want guns by improving the family unit: children born into a married couple that stays married would reduce gun violence by a tremendous amount. Far more than any gun law. What infuriates me is that people choose to bury their head in the sand and think they can leave the inner city a family disaster and legislate morality from afar. I scanned the list of states and didn't see any that seemed far off of the mean but I didn't actually make a spreadsheet to get the exact percentages. So it seems the most significant factor by a factor of 35:1 is suicide over mass shooting. For clarity: the death by suicide problem is as much as 35-40x as much as the effectively non existent mass shooting hype. Drug war related crime is approximately 15-20x People that are derailed by the "legacy" outdated disinformation networks they believe that mass shootings are a significant even epidemic problem but it's less than 1% of the problem. It is apparent that the anti gun crowd will use extremely disingenuous arguments to get people to back them and they do it because honesty won't work. If everybody was honest the public opinion would be a lot different! The "80%" that want more gun laws base that option on absolute nonsense they are told to believe rather than given facts and allow them to make informed decisions. The "cold dead hands" crowd are not without blame either often using cherry picked info to make their cause look better. Eg. cite cases where CCW saved the day but refuse to believe simple facts that a household with a gun is (duh) like 10x as likely to have an accidental death related to a gun because it exists. Similar problem for suicide: people are far more successful at suicide with a gun then any other method (duh), so of course people are far more likely to die from a gun if the house has a gun. Simple facts. The odds of improving your safety via self defense vs self inflicted injury are statistically not great as opposed to the increased risk of somebody in the house being injured or killed which is why it's absolutely critical that anybody in the house is properly trained and all guns are locked in a safe when not in use.
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I don't want to have to carry around a weapon to defend myself. I'd rather both individuals not be carrying a firearm. A bat or a knife I can either out run, or have a chance of over powering.
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2005 X5 4.4i Build 04/05 Maintenance/Build Log Nav, Pano, Sport (Purchased 06/14 w/ 109,000 miles) (Sold 8/15 w/121,000 miles) 2006 X5 4.8is Build 11/05 Maintenance/Build Log Nav, DSP, Pano, Running Boards, OEM Tow Hitch, Cold Weather Pckg (Purchased 08/15 w/ 90,500 miles) 2010 X5 35d Build 02/10 Nav, HiFi, 6 DVD, Sports Pckg, Cold Weather Pckg, HUD, CAS, Running Boards, Leather Dash, PDC, Pano (Purchased 03/17 w/ 136,120 miles) |
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2005 X5 4.4i Build 04/05 Maintenance/Build Log Nav, Pano, Sport (Purchased 06/14 w/ 109,000 miles) (Sold 8/15 w/121,000 miles) 2006 X5 4.8is Build 11/05 Maintenance/Build Log Nav, DSP, Pano, Running Boards, OEM Tow Hitch, Cold Weather Pckg (Purchased 08/15 w/ 90,500 miles) 2010 X5 35d Build 02/10 Nav, HiFi, 6 DVD, Sports Pckg, Cold Weather Pckg, HUD, CAS, Running Boards, Leather Dash, PDC, Pano (Purchased 03/17 w/ 136,120 miles) |
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