Home Forums Articles How To's FAQ Register
Go Back   Xoutpost.com > BMW SAV Forums > X5 (E53) Forum
Fluid Motor Union
User Name
Password
Member List Premier Membership Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Xoutpost server transfer and maintenance is occurring....
Xoutpost is currently undergoing a planned server migration.... stay tuned for new developments.... sincerely, the management


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #13641  
Old 06-19-2021, 09:18 AM
andrewwynn's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Racine, WI
Posts: 9,167
andrewwynn will become famous soon enough
I have never noticed fan act like this. Are you sure you're not confusing the sound of the SAP fan at start up? Also even when warm I've not had a problem stopping a fan clutch with the likes of rolled up paper.
__________________
2011 E70 • N55 (me)
2012 E70 • N63 (wife)
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links

  #13642  
Old 06-19-2021, 11:29 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Washington
Posts: 136
plasstik is on a distinguished road
What did you do to / for your E53 today??

Quote:
Originally Posted by Overboost View Post
What color was your original interior?
OB, it’s black

Last edited by plasstik; 06-20-2021 at 09:05 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #13643  
Old 06-19-2021, 05:38 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 522
Effduration is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewwynn View Post
I have never noticed fan act like this. Are you sure you're not confusing the sound of the SAP fan at start up? Also even when warm I've not had a problem stopping a fan clutch with the likes of rolled up paper.
The OEM Behr Sachs fans work well, with little noise.
I am certain the noise I described is not coming from Secondary Air pump. I replaced an SAP recently also and know what it sounds like.

But if you can stop your fan with a small roll of newspaper when the engine is hot, then you should consider replacing the fan clutch.

I just replaced mine on my "05 E53 3.0 with 135k. I knew it was bad when I couldn't even unscrew the fan clutch nut after I had loosened it with the fan clutch wrenches. My was nearly not grabbing at all.
Reply With Quote
  #13644  
Old 06-19-2021, 06:15 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Austin
Posts: 16
bnfaustin is on a distinguished road
What did you do to / for your E53 today??

It has been a marathon of abuse on my end lately. About 16 months ago, the remote control keyfob actuated lock/unlock died on my 2001 e53 4.4L. Me being naive, called my BMW German mechanic and mentioned it. He said that he was too busy that week but could look at it the next week. SO…. I drove the car for another 3 days, put a medical full O2 cylinder (with wheeled stand) in the car and drove home, planning to drop that cylinder off to a friend who needed it for his brother coming back from the hospital…. That evening, I go back out and try to unlock the car with my key, and the driver side (and only lock) on the car spins freely without any possibility of getting into the car….

Many searches and hours of trying to unlock the car myself, as well as having two lock smiths come out, ordering the special extension / air pillow unlock kits off amazon, trying the “double release of the door handle” etc., etc., etc. later, the car battery dies.

So now, it has been several days, I’m still locked out of the car, the door lock still doesn’t work and I have a dead battery. More YouTube and xOutpost searches, and I try:
- Taking the driver side wheel well apart,
- Taking the kidney out of the hood trying to get the hood to release,
- Removing the light out of the tail gate to try to recharge / jump start the car by connecting into the electrical system that way….

To no avail. So, I talk to my mechanics, and they recommend drilling out the lock and using a flat head screwdriver to get into the car that way….. Oops, that was a waste of time and money, I had already ordered the rebuild kit for the lock but that is now wasted money. Since the lock had completely failed trying to catch the lever with a screwdriver did nothing…. So, onto the “break the driver window to get into the car” that was 5 weeks ago….. Now the REAL fun begins :-):
- I tape the window every way possible to minimize the glass explosion,
- I broke the window and cleared up as much glass as feasible,
- Get into the car, FINALLY!!!!
- Open the hood, recharge the battery for about 25 min before it will start again, WOOHOOO!!! Put plastic on the window, clear more glass out of the interior while the car is idling to recharge the battery…. I shut the car down, go in, shower, come back out, finish sealing / reinforcing the plastic window while the car is idling some more, and the engine dies…. My guess, bad gas from sitting in the tank for so long…. Call my mechanic and have the X5 towed to his place since it will not restart even with a jump start…..
- Car sits around his lot over Memorial Day, he checks it out and says that it is the alternator that is dead….

So, I had the magical double whammy: Dead door lock and dying alternator, NO WONDER I could not get into the X5! He replaced the alternator, which entailed draining the fluids since it is “water” cooled, and recharged the battery and lo and behold, the beast came back to life happy as a clam. Now to tackle the broken window and drilled out door lock….
- Since we were already there, we replaced the clutch / pulley, serpentine belt and AC belts, since these were all showing signs of wear,
- I had already ordered a replacement window regulator for that driver side window since the window had been non-operational for a couple of months prior to this whole mess. Figured, if I’m going to break the window and have to replace it, might as well fix the darn thing as well,
- I ordered a replacement tinted window off eBay, and we replaced both the regulator, window and clips on the driver window, but…. It still would not work. Turns out it was the driver side control module that was dead, not the regulator, so…. Ordered one of those up and saved the old regulator since it was not dead after all…..
- Since I had the front driver side door card out, I glued all the panel anchors etc. back to the card so that it would go back onto the door more securely that it came off,
- We also replaced the door lock, so now I unfortunately have two separate keys one for the physical lock and one to use with the remote system and to start the car….
- Replacement driver side front control module arrives, I pop the old one out and pop the new one in, and all the windows worked, for a minute…. :-(, until the rear passenger window regulator gave a bad squeal, and the window dropped into the door…
- So, I ordered a new window regulator for the rear passenger window and off to YouTube to figure out how to take that door apart, including the privacy shade screens off of it,
- Several hours of taking things apart, glueing that door card anchors back onto the back of the panel,
- A couple of days of waiting and I received a replacement rear passenger door window regulator, so I assembled that, since I did not have a replacement clip for it (delays in shipping, they won’t get here until today), I took advantage of a trick that someone posted about using a plastic license plate retainer nut / screw to screw the window onto the regulator traveler instead of putting all that stress on the little brittle plastic clip that BMW engineers designed for the job. So, I clipped the last remaining nut retainer tab off the BMW OEM window clip, put the plastic license plate nut instead of the metal OEM nut, and used the license plate screw instead of the OEM M8 bolt, and VOILA!!! Fixed passenger side window, you say……
https://youtu.be/JwFFd7OJGaI

NOT SO FAST, turns out that window switch also died in the meantime, so that is ordered off eBay too :-),
- Thanks to [mention]mrbmwx5 [/mention]thread on how to reprogram the key fobs, I finally have both keys recharged and repaired to the remote and operational. After many YouTube searches, he had the magic sequence to get multiple key fobs re-paired to the central locking system in his battery replacement thread:
https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...y-key-fob.html

Bottom line, the moral of the story is:
- If your central locking system starts acting up, DO NOT IGNORE IT, check the driver door lock for signs of eminent failure and save yourself a TON of heart aches and $$$$
- If your car dies, don’t leave it for over a year sitting in a parking spot, sitting around does not help old brittle plastic bits

Thanks to all the other gear heads, especially [mention]andrewwynn [/mention]on this forum who have imparted so much knowledge and advice, without all the searches that I did and reading up, it would have been even more expensive and more painful to get the beast back to working order!

Last edited by bnfaustin; 06-19-2021 at 08:24 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #13645  
Old 06-19-2021, 06:51 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Austin
Posts: 16
bnfaustin is on a distinguished road
So now that the marathon repair and bring back to life is behind me, I’m debating options to upgrade the OEM NAV screen. I already updated the DVD / NAV system in the cargo area, I mean the display portion in the dash. My options are:
- ~$150 for OEM Widescreen display off eBay and add some aftermarket bluetooth adapter / patch into the AUX input,

- $275 for Eonon BMW 5 Series E39 Android 10 Car Stereo 7 Inch HD Touchscreen Car GPS Navigation Head Unit with 32G ROM Bluetooth 5.0 Car DVD Player:
https://www.eonon.com/Android-Car-GP...VD-Player.html

- $298 for: Eonon 2021 Summer Car Stereo Android 10 Car Stereo Android Car Head Unit, Eonon Car GPS Navigation Support Apple Carplay/Android Auto/Bluetooth 5.0/WiFi/Fast Boot/DVR/Backup Camera/OBDII-7 Inch-GA9449
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082WS9YWF...ing=UTF8&psc=1

- $290 for hizpo 1 Din 7 Inch Android 10 Car Stereo Radio DVD Player Fit for BMW 5 Series E39 BMW X5 E53 BMW M5 Car Navigation Bluetooth GPS 4G WiFi OBD2 DTV TPMS 1080P + Rearview Camera:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H7GN2DR...ing=UTF8&psc=1

- $224 for in Dash 7 Inch Navigation Android 10 Car Stereo Quad Core Double Din Car DVD Player for BMW E39 E38 M5 X5 5 Series Support Car GPS Navigation Bluetooth 4G WiFi OBD2 DAB+ DTV TPMS:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MPVNQBR...ing=UTF8&psc=1

Anyone have recommendations / experience with these? I would prefer to retain as much of the factory look, while gaining bluetooth, CarPlay and the ability to add a rear view camera down the road and keeping the steering wheel controls functional. Having the ability to reconnect the factory system to be able to program the instrument cluster would a definite plus, but I do not think that any of the aftermarket ones provide that functionality, which would leave me with a BMW OEM Widescreen off eBay and 20 year old tech…..


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #13646  
Old 06-19-2021, 07:05 PM
andrewwynn's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Racine, WI
Posts: 9,167
andrewwynn will become famous soon enough
Wow what a story if I read correctly everything was fixed in the very end


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
__________________
2011 E70 • N55 (me)
2012 E70 • N63 (wife)
Reply With Quote
  #13647  
Old 06-19-2021, 08:22 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Austin
Posts: 16
bnfaustin is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewwynn View Post
Wow what a story if I read correctly everything was fixed in the very end


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[mention]andrewwynn [/mention] yes, it’s all fixed. My mechanic did the alternator and half the driver side window regulator repair while I helped him, then I replaced the main window / mirror control module, broke down the passenger rear door, replaced that regulator, refitted that door card and put the whole thing back together. The car is up and running and fully operational. Hence, moving on to “features” rather than must have, looking at various head units to upgrade the mostly dead screen on the OEM navigation /head unit.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #13648  
Old 06-20-2021, 12:18 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Washington
Posts: 136
plasstik is on a distinguished road
Dang!! I felt all of the pain while reading.


Sent from my iPhone using Xoutpost.com
Reply With Quote
  #13649  
Old 06-21-2021, 05:43 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 191
guntherrex is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Effduration View Post
I am sorry not to see/respond to this earlier. You are describing the correct operation of a working fan clutch... It grabs on cold start up and sounds like a bus (whooshing). Then it will release and sound quiet. When engine temp warms up - particularly in traffic, it will grab again and cool the engine, which is what you want.

There are differences in the different brands. The Meyle fan clutch makes the most noise, and doesn't release as quickly on cold start ups. The Behr /Sachs (OEM) fan clutch is much quieter.. I buy the Behr/Sachs when I can.

But I recently discovered that both my fan clutch and aux fan (elec) were bad. Since I had two, new Meyle fan clutches in my parts pile, I installed one and was back in business. If the sound really annoys me, I will switch to a Behr/Sachs unit..

Cheers for the reply!

Yeah I can understand some startup noise, I checked and it's not the SAP that I hear, that shuts off nicely after 90 seconds and it fairly quiet.

What worries me is that the fan seems to lock way faster and more often than I'd expect, if I cruise on the highway at 60mph and turn off it is sometimes engaged already (outside temperatures under 80F), if the clutch should disengage at 66 degrees C that should not be the case, so maybe the bimetal is a little off or the fluid system leaks.

I think I'll have the clutch replaced for a behr one and get the thermostat replaced at the same time, because it's really annoying to have that noise all the time, makes the engine feel a bit sluggish too.
Reply With Quote
  #13650  
Old 06-21-2021, 07:24 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Covington, LA
Posts: 34
LA02MAX is on a distinguished road
Removed the limo tint that was applied over the factory tint on my recently acquired 4.8is. I can now see through the windows! What a wonder! I'll probably match the factory tint on the front windows, but for now I'm just enjoying the gift of sight.

I also installed new spark plugs, coils, air filter, cabin microfilter, and wipers.

__________________
__________________

2006 X5 4.8is
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:20 AM.
vBulletin, Copyright 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
© 2017 Xoutpost.com. All rights reserved. Xoutpost.com is a private enthusiast site not associated with BMW AG.
The BMW name, marks, M stripe logo, and Roundel logo as well as X3, X5 and X6 designations used in the pages of this Web Site are the property of BMW AG.
This web site is not sponsored or affiliated in any way with BMW AG or any of its subsidiaries.