re-mapping

[Isambard]

Originally Posted by powers1

Now ..why would BIGWAVE have any interest in all this information if he has a 3.0D?
The OP has all the information he needs,without you confusing the thread.

If you want to open a new thread for 4.4 remaps ,do so,but I am sure you will be challenged by many on the 25hp/40Nms you just stated and whether or not its really worth ,bucks for Hp value, for re-mapping a NA car.

Are you mental, or do you think I'm psychic? Where does BW say in his post he has a 3.0D???????

'Confusing the thread'? The only confusion here pal is your constant childish attempts to dig me out. Oh well, whatever. You carry on making yourself look a tw@t sunshine.

As for the bang for buck debate, I couldn't give two f@cks about it. I paid £325 and I'm as happy as a sandboy. My money, my car. If you don't want to spend the money, then don't, its that simple!!!! As far as I could read BW quite clearly asked for the views of people with experience of re-maps, and that my lowly friend, is me and my view. You didn't give a view, you just gave a boring monologue of how it gets done. And? He could have googled that if he wanted to know that shite. No, he asked for peoples EXPERIENCES.... Clue's in the words mate.

If you have nothing to offer than to try and deride those experienced (meaning real-world tried/tested/liked/dis-liked) views, then you really have nothing to offer, do you?

[Isambard]

Originally Posted by Wolf539

I stopped by the shop yesterday and your description was pretty much right on. After a bit of discussion I decided to pop for the remap.

Waiting on my exhaust to be delivered from Germany; should have the project done in about six weeks. Hopefully less...!

Wolf, I had a piggyback on a 94 e36 320 many years ago, it was garbage. Re-mapping is the way to go. It was actually more work pulling the ecu out of the engine bay, opening it up to put the chip in, than it is to plug the laptop in via the OBD port.

And yes, JCL's tech explanation was spot on, thats exactly what happens. In fact the guy who did mine this week gets his maps from a geek, sorry, I mean 'guy' in Germany. He sits there in his white overcoat and spectacles with a blackboard behind him with loads of equations plastered all over it, and basically alters the values in the standard map to his new revised version. Then sends it to him to his laptop, then gets downloaded onto the vehicle.

Hope you enjoy the better ride if/once you get it done.

[JCL]

Originally Posted by Isambard

Are you mental, or do you think I'm psychic? Where does BW say in his post he has a 3.0D???????

'Confusing the thread'? The only confusion here pal is your constant childish attempts to dig me out. Oh well, whatever. You carry on making yourself look a tw@t sunshine.

As for the bang for buck debate, I couldn't give two f@cks about it. I paid £325 and I'm as happy as a sandboy. My money, my car. If you don't want to spend the money, then don't, its that simple!!!! As far as I could read BW quite clearly asked for the views of people with experience of re-maps, and that my lowly friend, is me and my view. You didn't give a view, you just gave a boring monologue of how it gets done. And? He could have googled that if he wanted to know that shite. No, he asked for peoples EXPERIENCES.... Clue's in the words mate.

If you have nothing to offer than to try and deride those experienced (meaning real-world tried/tested/liked/dis-liked) views, then you really have nothing to offer, do you?

It would be nice if everyone calmed down.

And while I don't want to get into the personal attacks, I do think that the experience of remapping a turbocharged engine (whether diesel or gasoline/petrol) is quite different than remapping a naturally aspirated engine. There simply isn't an easy way to get more power out of a naturally aspirated engine with simple software changes.

[Isambard]

Originally Posted by JCL

It would be nice if everyone calmed down.

And while I don't want to get into the personal attacks, I do think that the experience of remapping a turbocharged engine (whether diesel or gasoline/petrol) is quite different than remapping a naturally aspirated engine. There simply isn't an easy way to get more power out of a naturally aspirated engine with simple software changes.

Funny that, neither did I JC. But I was attacked nonetheless for some obscure reason, for which I cannot for the life of me work out why!!?? And yes, there is a huge difference between mapping a diesel/turbo/petrol car to an NA car. Certainly I for one never disputed that nor claimed to say otherwise, I was, er, speaking from experience (with my black-metallic NA 4.4 2001 BMW sport petrol-engined 4x4 vehicle-NOT a diesel turbo) ...zzzzzzzZZZZZ Something to which I still believe is what the OP asked for in the first place.

I could quite easily go into the differences, benefits/gains etc associated with diesel/petrol/turbo engined vehicles, but like I said having read the OP's query I was led to believe the OP wanted to hear peoples experiences of having their car re-mapped, and again, that is what I thought I gave....?

Where's the problem?

[JCL]

Originally Posted by Isambard

Where's the problem?

Again, I don't want to do anything to further the personal attacks.

I think that Powers (as a BMW diesel engine mechanic) and Bigwave (who I knew had a diesel, from his previous posts, although certainly others may not have known) were talking about diesels more than petrol engines. Your remapping experience with a petrol engine (naturally aspirated) is interesting, but probably isn't a direct comparison, for the above reasons.

Having said that, I think that the degeneration into calling people names is the bigger issue. It is tough to infer the true meaning on posts sometimes, it is by its nature a limited form of communication. That justs puts an onus on all of us (not just you) to make sure we don't come across too strongly. It is even more of a challenge when we have several countries represented in a thread (at least five in this thread), and posters with their own idioms (I didn't know what a sandboy was)

The short way of saying this is "Can't we all just get along?"

[powers1]

Originally Posted by Isambard

Are you mental, or do you think I'm psychic? Where does BW say in his post he has a 3.0D???????

'Confusing the thread'? The only confusion here pal is your constant childish attempts to dig me out. Oh well, whatever. You carry on making yourself look a tw@t sunshine.

As for the bang for buck debate, I couldn't give two f@cks about it. I paid £325 and I'm as happy as a sandboy. My money, my car. If you don't want to spend the money, then don't, its that simple!!!! As far as I could read BW quite clearly asked for the views of people with experience of re-maps, and that my lowly friend, is me and my view. You didn't give a view, you just gave a boring monologue of how it gets done. And? He could have googled that if he wanted to know that shite. No, he asked for peoples EXPERIENCES.... Clue's in the words mate.

If you have nothing to offer than to try and deride those experienced (meaning real-world tried/tested/liked/dis-liked) views, then you really have nothing to offer, do you?

Wow...that was a good welcome back!Two months away after running with your tail between your legs ,when you made a right fool of yourself in the last post you made!
Let me put the link here again for all to see and wes till await your answer on post#33! http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...w-power-4.html

Now you come back to SPAM threads again and you still cant argue without personal attacking.
Let me show you how to win an argument without offending people or swearing!
I am not going to play your game ,because everyone here can read for themselves and I am sure Bigwave had all the information he asked for, before you parachute in from your AOL and CONFUSED the thread!
As you sarcastly said to me "THE CLUES ARE IN THE WORDS",so read carefully BW post#1 and what he asks,and then read Huntertechs post#2 ,where he gives his comprehensive feedback on his own remap,and finally read post #4 ,then tell us what have we forgotten to inform BW and what was your contribution ????

Oh ..and one more thing,If I knew you needed a remap done on your car,I could have given you a discount against your DISABLE card.You see ,I do files everyday and I dont need to send the file to be done in Germany,cause I do them myself.Not bad at it either....I just googled this and look what I found...Turbos at EMT - Page 2 - TDIClub Forums
CHECK POST 19,22,23 +26

Now just go away,get a mouthwash and get educated and when you can argue with me without resorting to personal attacks,then come back.

[bigwave2255]

woops sorry guys, that was probably my fault, i do as has been noted have a 3.0d and i was specifically asking about my car/motor

i just assumed you were all mind readers

and yes thank you i got the answer i needed

[Isambard]

Originally Posted by powers1

Wow...that was a good welcome back!Two months away after running with your tail between your legs ,when you made a right fool of yourself in the last post you made!
Let me put the link here again for all to see and wes till await your answer on post#33! http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...w-power-4.html

Now you come back to SPAM threads again and you still cant argue without personal attacking.
Let me show you how to win an argument without offending people or swearing!
I am not going to play your game ,because everyone here can read for themselves and I am sure Bigwave had all the information he asked for, before you parachute in from your AOL and CONFUSED the thread!
As you sarcastly said to me "THE CLUES ARE IN THE WORDS",so read carefully BW post#1 and what he asks,and then read Huntertechs post#2 ,where he gives his comprehensive feedback on his own remap,and finally read post #4 ,then tell us what have we forgotten to inform BW and what was your contribution ????

Oh ..and one more thing,If I knew you needed a remap done on your car,I could have given you a discount against your DISABLE card.You see ,I do files everyday and I dont need to send the file to be done in Germany,cause I do them myself.Not bad at it either....I just googled this and look what I found...Turbos at EMT - Page 2 - TDIClub Forums
CHECK POST 19,22,23 +26

Now just go away,get a mouthwash and get educated and when you can argue with me without resorting to personal attacks,then come back.

Oh dear. I see that you are from europe, so perhaps English isn't your primary language and therefore don't understand plain English. Either that or you are a complete mug.

There are two points to consider here, one is the fact you attacked me with your childish outburst about BW owning a diesel. Grown-ups generally say something along the lines of 'BW has a 3.0D by the way, in case you didn't know'.... Why the outburst? What is wrong with you? Seriously, why do you find it so hard to act like an adult and be civil? I said nothing in my post except my experience with re-maps. What on earth has it got to do with you? Who the f*ck do you think you are?

Which brings me onto the second point, and that being that was what the OP asked for. It really is that simple. I don't know what else I can say to that, because thats all there is to it. Again, PLAIN ENGLISH!

As for me confusing the thread, please explain to me how I confused it, I'd really like to hear how it was confused. And before you dare to even drum up some drivel trying to back your argument, DO bear in mind I DID NOT KNOW BW HAD A DIESEL!!!! Why would I???? He lives some 10,000 miles away. I'll help you, I live in ...wait for it... LONDON (UK). And..... he lives in AUSTRALIA... OK? Neither would anyone given the information displayed in his post.

As for the 'welcome back', I didn't know I had gone away. Perhaps some of us have a life outside of this forum... obviously you don't.

Winning an argument? I didn't know there was one. All I saw was an attack on me for no apparent reason, so I hit back. There's no argument at all, if someone hits me I hit them back-again, very simple stuff here.

You suggested I 'carefully read BW's post again'.... here it is... new to this concept and probably not considering doing it but........

as these cars are adaptive both motor and gear box, and if you drive mainly in stop start peak our traffic, wont the car adapt its self to this regardless of wether its chipped or not???

wouldn't you then need to either disconnect the battery or take it out to the country for a serious thrashing before regaining the advantage of the re-chipping???

what is the experience of those who have done it???

Funny, I cant see anywhere that says 'please give me a not-really needed boring monologue of how it is done at IT level'. Me, I gave him my experience which included the experience of how the guy did it so he has an idea of what to practically expect when it comes to having it done. ie what he does when he hooks up the laptop to the vehicle...

As for reading others' posts... And? What are you saying, that if 1 or 2 people answer an OP's question then no more people are needed to share their views/experience? If thats what you're saying then you have the whole 'forum thing' upside-down in your little world. If your'e not saying that people don't need to comment after 1 or 2 replies, then what are you saying with that comment? Please share your thoughts with us, I'm sure we'd all like to know.

BUT, if you are saying that, then how would people fix their cars? ie. OP: my car wont start. 1st response: its your spare tyre. 2nd response: its your sunroof. The great and almighty Powers1 (fanfare, then lots of sniggering in the back row) booms out in a mumbly, yet commanding voice 'no more to anymore responses'. hmmm, looks like the OP isn't going to fix his car....

Whatever nonsense and absolute drivel your warped and childish mind dreams up in response, and somehow manages to find itself on here again, I shall not be answering, so type away sonny jim, type away!