New x5 Owner from the UK

[Isambard]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

What a great welcome! Certainly stands out from all the others--great insight to how well you must get along in this world. What perception to notice OP was asking for your opinions. I do have a small suggestion for the future welcomes--don't bother.

Hmmm, I wasn't really interested in any of your suggestions before that little hissy fit, let alone after!

In case you hadn't noticed, this is a forum. The Oxford dictionary has it as 'a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged'. I sincerely hope that doesn't need explaining any further.

No, the OP didn't directly ask for an opinion, then again, neither did I. Neither of us had to. Why? Because it is what it is, a FORUM.

The fact that the OP posted photos is (and for you not to know is a great insight into how you get along in this world) a way of seeking affirmation from the viewer. It's the same if you were to show a photo of your car, house, boat, or kids to another person. You expect a response. Why are you showing it if you don't?? The 'norm' is to expect a good response like 'wow, that looks great', even though the person is lying throught their teeth just to be kind. However I am not the kind of person that lies to be kind. Lies are for kids who know no better. I don't like the interior. Build a bridge, get over it.

And what great perception of you to not notice the fact that I gave advice to help him out with his search for the manifold. What did you do to help?

Thanks for your opinion.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Isambard

Hmmm, I wasn't really interested in any of your suggestions before that little hissy fit, let alone after!

In case you hadn't noticed, this is a forum. The Oxford dictionary has it as 'a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged'. I sincerely hope that doesn't need explaining any further.

No, the OP didn't directly ask for an opinion, then again, neither did I. Neither of us had to. Why? Because it is what it is, a FORUM.

The fact that the OP posted photos is (and for you not to know is a great insight into how you get along in this world) a way of seeking affirmation from the viewer. It's the same if you were to show a photo of your car, house, boat, or kids to another person. You expect a response. Why are you showing it if you don't?? The 'norm' is to expect a good response like 'wow, that looks great', even though the person is lying throught their teeth just to be kind. However I am not the kind of person that lies to be kind. Lies are for kids who know no better. I don't like the interior. Build a bridge, get over it.

And what great perception of you to not notice the fact that I gave advice to help him out with his search for the manifold. What did you do to help?

Thanks for your opinion.

I apologize. I shouldn't have made it personal.

My point is--

I think it is our responsibility to welcome new members in a very positive manner. Our responses will be the first impression of the forum, and, at that juncture, reflect on the entire membership.

When someone posts they just bought an X5 and post pictures, I agree, it is because they are proud and pleased and feel a great place to share that is with other X5 enthusiasts. Yes, I think they expect, and should expect, as common curtesy, positive feedback. As you mention that's normal. Seems to me that is the time when--if we can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all should reign supreme, leaving the responses to others.

I applaud OP for taking the high road.

[Isambard]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

I apologize. I shouldn't have made it personal.

My point is--

I think it is our responsibility to welcome new members in a very positive manner. Our responses will be the first impression of the forum, and, at that juncture, reflect on the entire membership.

When someone posts they just bought an X5 and post pictures, I agree, it is because they are proud and pleased and feel a great place to share that is with other X5 enthusiasts. Yes, I think they expect, and should expect, as common curtesy, positive feedback. As you mention that's normal. Seems to me that is the time when--if we can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all should reign supreme, leaving the responses to others.

I applaud OP for taking the high road.

Thank-you for the apology, it's very decent of you. Though I have to say it is not the OP that has taken the high road, it is you. And for that I commend your humility.

And what I mean by the OP not taking the high road is that I don't believe he has taken offence-as none was given, nor intended. Firstly, he is from the UK, secondly he is from the South East which is where I am from. That means if he had taken offence he would have said so, and promptly ripped my head off (albeit in cyberspace), and I would have accepted that. Its the way of the world where I am from. I don't wish to get into a 'peoples attitudes due to their geographic locations' discussion, but this is what I believe, particularly in this case. If I am wrong then I am wrong.

Yes there is the saying don't say anything if its not nice etc etc, but I don't operate that way. If I have an opinion, I will share it. If that opinion is not liked... oh well.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Isambard

Thank-you for the apology, it's very decent of you. Though I have to say it is not the OP that has taken the high road, it is you. And for that I commend your humility.

And what I mean by the OP not taking the high road is that I don't believe he has taken offence-as none was given, nor intended. Firstly, he is from the UK, secondly he is from the South East which is where I am from. That means if he had taken offence he would have said so, and promptly ripped my head off (albeit in cyberspace), and I would have accepted that. Its the way of the world where I am from. I don't wish to get into a 'peoples attitudes due to their geographic locations' discussion, but this is what I believe, particularly in this case. If I am wrong then I am wrong.

Yes there is the saying don't say anything if its not nice etc etc, but I don't operate that way. If I have an opinion, I will share it. If that opinion is not liked... oh well.

Classic responses of a bully---Seek out and prey on those that are seemingly at a disadvantage as that dominance is their source of self esteem. Responds to any public challenge with intimidation, seeking revenge. Views any dissimilar response as weakness, victory, validation and dominance that must be extended. When intimidation is no longer successful loses control in either a childlike tantrum or seeks refuge in the fetal position.

What you describe is your way of the world, is in no way universal to your location than it is in the rest of the world.

An apology does not indicate humility. It is evidence of character. I apologized for how I wrote my post not the message. It was your opportunity to admit you were out of line and save face. I was pretty sure what you would do. Either way this crap would end soon.