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https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...build-diy.html The front springs are pretty stiff. I used a brand new spring compressor (i.e. well lubed) and a 1/2 ratchet. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 One end of the spring compressor was in a vice at table height. As the spring compressed the effort increased considerably. Near the end I had to hold down on the strut as I pulled up on the ratchet. I assume the “lower foam piece” you replaced was #4 in the parts diagram. If so…. How did you compress the spring? Did you cut it to slip it around the shock? Funf Dreisig |
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I didn't need to compress the spring. Take off the nut when wheel is on the ground. Jack it up, take off the wheel. Then, I was able to compress only the strut by putting my Allen in and compressing it enough to slip the new one in underneath. I just cut the old and pulled it out.
I'm just wondering if the strut should be that easy to compress. Maybe it is my faulty part. You had new struts, how stiff were they? How about the old ones? |
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Wow. 'Your bad part'???? Funf is using pictures and part numbers to be very precise about a complex collection of components.... You are using loose words, refering to parts as 'one', an 'allen'... Compressing 'only the strut' ....etc.... You don't need pictures of yours...there are hundreds of part blow ups online, even with numbers....pretty easy to use one and refer to these numbers..... |
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1 - you still can’t see/inspect the condition of parts number 7 or 8 in the parts diagram (that Philly42 posted) 2 - you can’t be sure that the spring re-seats correctly into part 5 when you let the X5 back down. In the thread I linked, you can see that the original shock absorber was shorter than the Bilstein replacement. I think that this difference in length was not by design, but rather due to wear. Basically, at rest the old shock was just hanging there. So it didn’t begin absorbing the shock until the wheel had already started upward. In contrast the Bilstein was already under some compression, resisting upward movement even at rest. In the same thread you can see that the extra length of the Bilstein meant that the flange on part #1 (the strut/shock) was not touching part #4 or the spring when I started tightening the nut at the top of the strut/shock. So if you had to pry the flange down to insert part #4, your struts/shocks are probably “shot”. I would replace both front struts/shocks and parts number 7, 8 and 10. That’s what I did. And our 2009 X5 35d now drives like a loaner Funf Dreisig |
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OOPs my bad. I thought I had posted this photo in the linked thread but…
The attached photo compares the length of the org strut/shock to the new Bilstein. Essentially when I installed the Bilstein I pre-loaded it by roughly 1.5“ before installation on the X5. Where it got loaded even more by the weight of the X5. Funf Dreisig |
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You are right, I could not see the condition of part 7. I replaced the "doughnut" part 8, but it really wasn't in bad condition. Part 10 on the top of the assembly was perfectly fine, with almost no wear. Since I left the bearing support flange connected, I didn't have to mess with the spring at all, so the alignment shouldn't have changed. I simply pushed the shaft of the strut in far enough to slip the new doughnut in, then guided the shaft back through the bearing support flange and reassembled. I was going for a cheap and easy fix... didn't work this time.
If the culprit is a weak strut, I will replace the parts you listed. From what I've read, if you do one side, you should do both. Just been trying to verify before I spend the cash and effort. If I shouldn't be able to compress the shaft that easily, that will be enough to convince me. |
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I bought both parts #10 at a local dealer, because they were on back order at ECS Tuning and I want to get the job done that weekend FWIW I believe that the failure of the Upper and Lower Guide Supports (parts #8 & 10) are due to a combination of age and the wear/tear on the strut/shock absorber. In other words, as the strut/shock wears out it transfers more impact onto the Guide Supports. Eventually they get pounded enough to disintegrate into the orange power. Think -- Canary in the coal mine. Funf Dreisig |
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