anyone else ordered new Passport 9500ci radar detector for their X5?

[FSETH]

The Laser Interceptor tested really well, so did the Anti Laser. The new version of the Blinder should be pretty good. Check them out and see which one you prefer. I am sure other websites have tested these. I was sold on the Blinder until I saw how well the Laser Interceptor tested.

It seems like the majority of people here like the V1 and I have to agree as far as detectors go.

nynd, it doesn't matter if the cop knows something wierd is going on. If the jammer is legal in your state then you aren't breaking any laws. You leave the jammer on the entire time he is shooting at you. That is the point of having it. Having said that, it is very important to know your states laws on jamming devices. Here is a link from the guys of lidar.

http://guysoflidar.com/usa-laser-jammer-laws.html

Not sure about Canada.

[dbinc]

FSETH: Thank you! I will check it out, as of right now, I am leaning towards the V1 with the Laser Interceptor.

Tried finding a place to purchase the Laser Interceptor, any suggestions?

[FSETH]

Originally Posted by dbinc

FSETH: Thank you! I will check it out, as of right now, I am leaning towards the V1 with the Laser Interceptor.

Tried finding a place to purchase the Laser Interceptor, any suggestions?

Look back at Denalio's post. I think he put up a link for the Interceptor.

Good luck.

[xwith5]

Originally Posted by HaroldC

ummmm....... I think it is you who is mistaken. The 9500ci is just a 9500i that is designed for a custom install and includes the laser shifter. I do hope that the 'new' ZR4 is better than the ZR3, which didn't even detect the Laser Atlanta Stealth lidar gun on GOL's lidar jammer test:

http://guysoflidar.com/march-2007/la...mmer-test.html

The 9500i also did not perform as well as the V1, as you can see from the GOL's latest radar detector test:

http://guysoflidar.com/august-2007/r...ctor-test.html

But hey, it's your money. I'm all for spending it the way you like. I myself will probably end up spending less for more.

I think it is pretty clear that the battle between these two detectors is going beyond logic. The Valentine 1 is a cool detector, but it is simply nothing new, and it is old technology. They are stil hanging on to the profound idea that was released in the 90's, and for some reason people still buy it (avid users, I assume). Hell, it took them until just a couple years ago even to add in POP detection. Sure, you might know the direction of the signal, but a smart driver will slow down NO MATTER WHERE THE COP IS, so the only real use for the arrows would be to filter out false alarms (which the 9500ci will do for you)!

Let's also consider that the Valentine 1 has a worse flase alarm rating than both high end Bels and Escorts, and the V1 is detectable by Spectre RDD, (whether you admit it or not, even cops in states where detectors are illegal will wait for a RD signal and use POP radar to pin you). I find it funny in your analysis of the two, all you do is compare distance of detection. In the link you provided, They compared the V1 with the 9500i, and there was univerally less than an average of about 40 feet difference in detection, which at 60mph is about .3 seconds! This is not an adequate measure of comparison and certainly does not hold up as an argument for the V1 over the 9500i. Furthermore, the 9500ci is remote mount, and will have slightly better detection range, as all remote mounts do (an average of around 100 feet), which means your test falls apart anyway.

So, let's compare -
V1 has arrows and is cheaper
9500ci is undetectable, shifts lasers, elminates false alarms, detects speed traps, uses variable speed signalling smart mute

It's really what is important to you. A majority of radar detector analysts will choose the 9500i over the V1 (they are the same price). Do the research. When it comes to the 9500ci, we are talking about a different price range and a different ball game altogether, and it is simply a joke to even compare the V1 to it.

[FSETH]

Originally Posted by xwith5

I think it is pretty clear that the battle between these two detectors is going beyond logic. The Valentine 1 is a cool detector, but it is simply nothing new, and it is old technology. They are stil hanging on to the profound idea that was released in the 90's, and for some reason people still buy it (avid users, I assume). Hell, it took them until just a couple years ago even to add in POP detection. Sure, you might know the direction of the signal, but a smart driver will slow down NO MATTER WHERE THE COP IS, so the only real use for the arrows would be to filter out false alarms (which the 9500ci will do for you)!

Let's also consider that the Valentine 1 has a worse flase alarm rating than both high end Bels and Escorts, and the V1 is detectable by Spectre RDD, (whether you admit it or not, even cops in states where detectors are illegal will wait for a RD signal and use POP radar to pin you). I find it funny in your analysis of the two, all you do is compare distance of detection. In the link you provided, They compared the V1 with the 9500i, and there was univerally less than an average of about 40 feet difference in detection, which at 60mph is about .3 seconds! This is not an adequate measure of comparison and certainly does not hold up as an argument for the V1 over the 9500i. Furthermore, the 9500ci is remote mount, and will have slightly better detection range, as all remote mounts do (an average of around 100 feet), which means your test falls apart anyway.

So, let's compare -
V1 has arrows and is cheaper
9500ci is undetectable, shifts lasers, elminates false alarms, detects speed traps, uses variable speed signalling smart mute

It's really what is important to you. A majority of radar detector analysts will choose the 9500i over the V1 (they are the same price). Do the research. When it comes to the 9500ci, we are talking about a different price range and a different ball game altogether, and it is simply a joke to even compare the V1 to it.

THe V1 did better than the 9500i in every test category. The new Escort does have the advantage of GPS for false alarms and hopefully this technology cuts down significantly over the 8500 X50 POS. The laser protection on that model (which I had) is a complete joke. Atleast with V1 you can upgrade to their newest technology. The Passport was designed for obsolescence. So advantage Passport with GPS technology and advantage V1 with regard to everything else.

The more expensive Escort 9500ci does have laser advantages over a V1, but a V1 and a good quality stand alone jammer outperfom the 9500ci hands down.

To each his own, but if I were going to buy just a detector it would be the V1 and if I were wanting more laser protection I would buy the V1 plus an additional jammer. If you are going to spend the money, might as well get the best protection and the 9500ci isn't the best. It may be the best combination detector/shifter, but not the best overall protection.

[nynd]

Hey FSETH,
Here in Ontario - Laser jamming or they way they put it " Interfering with the system" is illegal.
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Originally Posted by FSETH

The Laser Interceptor tested really well, so did the Anti Laser. The new version of the Blinder should be pretty good. Check them out and see which one you prefer. I am sure other websites have tested these. I was sold on the Blinder until I saw how well the Laser Interceptor tested.

It seems like the majority of people here like the V1 and I have to agree as far as detectors go.

nynd, it doesn't matter if the cop knows something wierd is going on. If the jammer is legal in your state then you aren't breaking any laws. You leave the jammer on the entire time he is shooting at you. That is the point of having it. Having said that, it is very important to know your states laws on jamming devices. Here is a link from the guys of lidar.

http://guysoflidar.com/usa-laser-jammer-laws.html

Not sure about Canada.

[FSETH]

Originally Posted by nynd

Hey FSETH,
Here in Ontario - Laser jamming or they way they put it " Interfering with the system" is illegal.
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Got ya.

It is only illegal in a handfull of states right now. I would bet that the number of illegal states will grow in the future though.

[AVB-AMG]

Curious to hear what all of you who have performed what appears to be quite an in-depth study and research on radar detectors and laser jammers/shifters think about the K40 Calibre system. The K40 Calibre system from K40 Electronics (www.K40.com), utilizes remote bluetooth technology for their radar detector and laser shifter system that is probably the most stealth in its installation and appearance. I have been given fully stealth installed prices of between $2,100 - $2,400. In your opinion, is it worth it? How does it compare to the other remote mounted radar detector (front & rear) and laster jammer (front & rear) systems?

I used to use windshield mounted Escort's then moved up to the hard-wired K40 system in my last BMW X5 (E53) and it worked pretty good. I have a feeling the K40 Calibre system is an improvment but does not provide the laser jamming performance of the other stand-alone jammers currently available. What do all of you think???

AVB-AMG

[Denalio]

Originally Posted by nynd

Hey FSETH,
Here in Ontario - Laser jamming or they way they put it " Interfering with the system" is illegal.
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The Laser Propark is sold as a "Parking Aid" and the Laser interceptor has a "parking Feature" this is how they get around the Laws. Now if you get stopped by the Police and they suspect you are using a "jammer". First they have to find it and if and when they do you tell them that they are "parking Sensors" if you get questioned carry the manual with you and you can show them that it is a "parking sensor". Hopefully they will buy the story. Frankly, I think most LEO's are to busy or lazy to look. They will just target the next vehicle. They get malfunctions all the time on their guns and the Laser Interceptor won't throw jamming codes. To avoid being stopped you have to be smart about the use of the jammer. When you get the alert SLOW DOWN to legal speed and let the Officer get a reading.

[xwith5]

Originally Posted by FSETH

THe V1 did better than the 9500i in every test category. The new Escort does have the advantage of GPS for false alarms and hopefully this technology cuts down significantly over the 8500 X50 POS. The laser protection on that model (which I had) is a complete joke. Atleast with V1 you can upgrade to their newest technology. The Passport was designed for obsolescence. So advantage Passport with GPS technology and advantage V1 with regard to everything else.

The more expensive Escort 9500ci does have laser advantages over a V1, but a V1 and a good quality stand alone jammer outperfom the 9500ci hands down.

To each his own, but if I were going to buy just a detector it would be the V1 and if I were wanting more laser protection I would buy the V1 plus an additional jammer. If you are going to spend the money, might as well get the best protection and the 9500ci isn't the best. It may be the best combination detector/shifter, but not the best overall protection.

By every test category, you are referring to radar detection range, and as I said, the difference is absolutely insignificant. If am am to argue within price range, the passport 9500i at 450 dollars plus a quality laser jammer would be the ultimate choise for the price, allowing only the loss of being undetectable to RDD's. For the exact same price, you can eliminate false alarms, which means better radar detection. You can call the 8500 a POS if you like, but all you have against it is laser detection, which is a joke on ANY RADAR DETECTOR. There is no such thing as laser protection unless you jam the laser. Any radar detector mounted on a windshield will show no more than around 70% success at detecting a laser at all, because the beam of light has to bounce off and hit the detector. Either way, if you have been lasered, you have a ticket. Radar detectors should be measured by RADAR - distance of detection and quality of detection. Distance is virtually identical for the V1 and 9500i, (and will be better for the 9500ci), and quality of detection is undeniably better with Escort.