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Old 09-17-2009, 09:36 PM
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I assume it is illegal in most states. In Illinois:

"HB 960Mandates that a vehicle equipped with visual media technology cannot be operated if the technology is on and the screen is visible from the driver's seat. Which means if someone has one of those video screens to play movies in the car, it better not be in the driver's line of sight. "

Not to be overly dramatic, but it would not be good if the EMT's or Policeman pulling you out of a wrecked X5 noticed Batman playing on the display, particularly if someone died.
would have to prove it was on prior to the crash and not caused by the impact itself and/or objects flying around inside the cabin. not something that can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt
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would have to prove it was on prior to the crash and not caused by the impact itself and/or objects flying around inside the cabin. not something that can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt

That would be up to a jury. I would not want to bet either way. Please note that in civil cases the criteria, I believe, is not "beyond a reasonable doubt," but, "preponderance of evidence."
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I have premium sound, navigation, rear seat entertainment, snap in adapter, the ipod usb/3.5 plug, and the adapter so I am able to play audio fine from my iPhone/iPod on my 09 X5.

I want to know if there is a way I could play videos from my iPhone/iPod on the BMW Navigation screen? I don't mind controlling it thru the i-drive or the ipod, but I want a simple install like the OEM audio setup as I will use the videos rarely.
Anyone know what will work for me?
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I have premium sound, navigation, rear seat entertainment, snap in adapter, the ipod usb/3.5 plug, and the adapter so I am able to play audio fine from my iPhone/iPod on my 09 X5.

I want to know if there is a way I could play videos from my iPhone/iPod on the BMW Navigation screen? I don't mind controlling it thru the i-drive or the ipod, but I want a simple install like the OEM audio setup as I will use the videos rarely.
Anyone know what will work for me?
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You need only look at the first page of this very thread to find the answer. What you need and how you do it is described in detail. You didnt even have to do a search which would have shown you several topics on your query, just read this thread! I just installed the invision rear seat entertainment, drop down screen for the third row, an IPOD VIDEO interface and a FLIR, all of which is tied in to the OEM screen. I can watch video from three different sources on these screens independently, watch one source on all for screens or any combo in between. Happy to answer any q's you may have.
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You need only look at the first page of this very thread to find the answer. What you need and how you do it is described in detail. You didnt even have to do a search which would have shown you several topics on your query, just read this thread! I just installed the invision rear seat entertainment, drop down screen for the third row, an IPOD VIDEO interface and a FLIR, all of which is tied in to the OEM screen. I can watch video from three different sources on these screens independently, watch one source on all for screens or any combo in between. Happy to answer any q's you may have.
I read this thread before posting, but thought the devices on the first page were for people who did not have OEM ipod interface.
Which iPod Video interface did you use? Are you able to control the ipod from the i-drive or what? Lastly, are you able to view the video while driving, or does it stop?
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I read this thread before posting, but thought the devices on the first page were for people who did not have OEM ipod interface.
Which iPod Video interface did you use? Are you able to control the ipod from the i-drive or what? Lastly, are you able to view the video while driving, or does it stop?
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I can only speak for US spec cars tho I suspect this will apply to most market specs. The BMW Ipod OEM interface will not allow for video at all in the US and in other markets shuts off when the vehicle is in motion. The simplest solution is the BMW56 CAN which will allow, thru plug and play, for you to view up to 3 external video sources, including an IPOD (plus another rear view camera-4th video source- set up automatically when in reverse). This will allow for video in motion. However, you can only control the IPOD thru its own controls, the OEM screen will remain blank until the video starts. If you are determined to control the video IPOD thru the OEM screen and I-Drive, then the Denison product I decribe on page 1 will allow you to do that. I elected to use a simple $40 dollar cable which connects to the BMW56 CAN and then runs to my center console to connect the IPOD, so the IPOD is easily accesable. It also charges the IPOD. The Denison solution will cost aprox $1,000.

With regard to the Invision Rear entertainment system, (my second of three video sources), I can actually view the Invision menu on the OEM screen and make selections while viewing the OEM screen thru the Invision remote or watch the selections being made from someone in the back thru the actual invision controls on the monitors. Each of the two Invision monitors allows for an IPOD plug in, and other video sources, including games, playstation etc, thru either a USB port or standard 3 prong video portal (all in addition to the DVD slot for each). If I plug the IPOD into the invision system then I can actually see the IPOD menu on the OEM screen but that doesnt really give me any benefit.

Each of the 3 external video sources connected via the BMW56 CAN are accessed thru the I-Drive using either the center console MENU button or steering wheel controls. I can also control the full screen or split screen of these sources thru the I-drive menu and steering wheel buttons.

Hope this helps. Happy to answer any other q's you may have.
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That would be up to a jury. I would not want to bet either way. Please note that in civil cases the criteria, I believe, is not "beyond a reasonable doubt," but, "preponderance of evidence."
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Two entirely different issues. In the case of a statute under criminal procedure, merely having it on while driving is in of itself a violation subject to penalty. The proof of intentionally having it on while driving as Berniec states would have to be beyond a reasonable doubt.

In the case of civil matters, where there was an accident and resultant harm for which a civil action was brought, the issue is one of negligence, proven as you correctly state by a preponderence of the evidence. Merely having it on would not, of itself, lead to liability. There would have to be a showing of driver negligence where the screen distracted the driver and therefore the driver was negligent by becoming distracted. It is the distraction which is negligent, not the mere fact that a video source was on. There has to be a causal relationship. There is no strict liability under civil procedure for merely having it on, as I read a version of the pending HB 960.

Also as a HB (House Bill) that would be a bill introduced to the House for consideration. it is not yet the law of the land. I do not know if it has since been been passed. I know this was one of a series of Driver Distraction legislation being considered. It may have very well been passed, my rather fast and superficial research this morning however did not find it as an actual passed statute. Perhaps you know more of this? I would like to read the actual statute if it has been passed.
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2 x Ipod Touch duct taped to the headrest.
The rear entertainment system in this car is a spacehog.
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2 x Ipod Touch duct taped to the headrest.
The rear entertainment system in this car is a spacehog.
That certainly is an option!

I do not find the Invision system to be that much a space hog.
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