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Old 09-25-2009, 05:13 PM
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Just had a quick look through the 2010 manual.

Oh dear. Shame on BMW. The rear entertainment system still uses the older i-Drive interface. How lazy BMW are.

Looks like the rear PDC still cannot be fully turned off for good, but the gong sound can be turned down. At least thats something.
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I will go ahead and say it-- looks like we have Tailgate-gate. Get it ? You know like Spygate.
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...Looks like the rear PDC still cannot be fully turned off for good, but the gong sound can be turned down. At least thats something.
The inability to disable the PDC gong completely was a show stopper for us even considering the technology package. We simply don't need/want PDC very often. During our extended test drive, the PDC was constantly warning me of things I didn't need to know. For example when I would get out of the X5 with it still running and remove something from the cargo area -BEEP -BEEP- BEEP. OK the X5 is in park, with the parking brake set, no one is in the drivers seat and it still needs to blast the gong load enough to wake the dead that I am standing close the the rear bumper - DUH. Or when backing out of the garage - BEEP- BEEP- BEEP. OK I'm near the door of the garage. But guess what, I have NEVER hit it even though none of our vehicles have PDC - DUH. BTW just how big does your garage have to be to stop the PDC from complaining? The BMW PDC is the classic case of the boy that cried wolf. The only acceptable solution would be if you can turn OFF the gong completely.

FWIW I know you can turn OFF PDC temporarily. What I wanted was the option to turn ON PDC temporarily. Same button, opposite function. How hard can this be?

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Coming from MB, I still prefer how MB implements the PDC.

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The inability to disable the PDC gong completely was a show stopper for us even considering the technology package. We simply don't need/want PDC very often. During our extended test drive, the PDC was constantly warning me of things I didn't need to know. For example when I would get out of the X5 with it still running and remove something from the cargo area -BEEP -BEEP- BEEP. OK the X5 is in park, with the parking brake set, no one is in the drivers seat and it still needs to blast the gong load enough to wake the dead that I am standing close the the rear bumper - DUH. Or when backing out of the garage - BEEP- BEEP- BEEP. OK I'm near the door of the garage. But guess what, I have NEVER hit it even though none of our vehicles have PDC - DUH. BTW just how big does your garage have to be to stop the PDC from complaining? The BMW PDC is the classic case of the boy that cried wolf. The only acceptable solution would be if you can turn OFF the gong completely.

FWIW I know you can turn OFF PDC temporarily. What I wanted was the option to turn ON PDC temporarily. Same button, opposite function. How hard can this be?

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The inability to disable the PDC gong completely was a show stopper for us even considering the technology package. We simply don't need/want PDC very often. During our extended test drive, the PDC was constantly warning me of things I didn't need to know. For example when I would get out of the X5 with it still running and remove something from the cargo area -BEEP -BEEP- BEEP. OK the X5 is in park, with the parking brake set, no one is in the drivers seat and it still needs to blast the gong load enough to wake the dead that I am standing close the the rear bumper - DUH. Or when backing out of the garage - BEEP- BEEP- BEEP. OK I'm near the door of the garage. But guess what, I have NEVER hit it even though none of our vehicles have PDC - DUH. BTW just how big does your garage have to be to stop the PDC from complaining? The BMW PDC is the classic case of the boy that cried wolf. The only acceptable solution would be if you can turn OFF the gong completely.

FWIW I know you can turn OFF PDC temporarily. What I wanted was the option to turn ON PDC temporarily. Same button, opposite function. How hard can this be?

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This has been updated/changed. If the vehicle is in park, the PDC gong will not go off like it did in earlier versions and in your description above. It was one of the first things I noticed with my MY2010.

It's also way more accurate and does not beep and or register something that's a mile away like the old version did.
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This has been updated/changed. If the vehicle is in park, the PDC gong will not go off like it did in earlier versions and in your description above. It was one of the first things I noticed with my MY2010.

It's also way more accurate and does not beep and or register something that's a mile away like the old version did.
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This has been updated/changed. If the vehicle is in park, the PDC gong will not go off like it did in earlier versions and in your description above. It was one of the first things I noticed with my MY2010.

It's also way more accurate and does not beep and or register something that's a mile away like the old version did.
Glad to hear BMW made some very MINOR improvements in 2010. But that still doesn't address the issue of the PDC overreacting to normal conditions when it is not in park. For example, the proximity of garage walls, garage door jams, etc. I getting tired of the BMW nannys nagging all the time. The PDC nanny was one thing I could simply refuse to buy.

IMO the ONLY real solution to the PDC is to allow each driver the option to set whether they want the PDC to be normally ON with the PDC button temporarily turning it off. Or have the PDC normally OFF with the PDC button allowing them to turn it on when they decide they need it. This should be a trivial problem to solve via a software update: one option setting in the driver profile via the idrive. BMW simply doesn't want to do it.

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