Maintenance Warranty Timing Question

[ard]

Originally Posted by JCL

One could always develop a relationship with the dealer, if there is a reasonable dealer in your city. A radical proposal, but it works for some of us.

Totally agree. Works for me too actually. I went through five SAs prior to finding one that allowed be to interact with the tech and work towards a relationship of mutual respect. (since 2003)

Interestingly, when the diesel was having those 'intake air temp sensor faults' I had multiple conversations with my tech. He was being pulled by BMW, with their routine advice of 'no SIBs, just reset it'... he and I decided to give the reset a try, but we agreed it might come back. He knew I was OK with the plan, and I wasn't going to be a screaming lunatic if the same issue came back. He agreed to research it here and the other forum and I sent him some links- (about which he latter marveled at how "you guys on the forum know more that we get from BMW!".)

When the CEL did come back, he pushed PUMA for a new sensor and reprogram.... which, surprise, fixed it. Then 6 weeks later BMW publishes the recall.

Having a 'partner' in your efforts can make a WORLD of difference in car ownership. (How about having intermittent boot issues with a nav unit and having the SA 'trust you' on the failure and order a replacement?)

So I am pretty 'dealer hostile', but not really due to my personal relationship...truth is that most 'civilians' do not get treated well by the 'system'.

I still think your comment about mutual trust being central to the process is spot on.

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[MRV99]

The break pad mileage in the idrive is an estimate and sometimes it will actually go up. If the idrive is at 3000k then your SA can give you new breaks, Mine did. How many breaks jobs have you done in your X. If you only had one for the 47K you put on the car then the ext maintenance is a waste of money. You will get 2 maybe 3 oil changes at 115.00 at the dealer and 1200 for the breaks. I guess you get some wipers also but that does not add up to enough in my book. Besides, you should be doing 7k oil changes if you want to keep the late mile gremlins away

[ozam]

I am at 47,500 miles and have had NO brake jobs thus far!!

[cinnamonstick]

sorry for the hijack...on topic.

question.....same boat but the car did have a break change before i bought it.....

computer says 22k for front before breaks and 14k for back breaks...
also...the computer readout said "8" left on the break pads (12-0 I think the pads run).

we r debating the ext. maint. also ($2250 or so). We have 43k on the car now (just bought last week).

One thing the dealer said was there is a $$ 60k scheduled mile check up and $$ 90k mile. Andthe 60K one is very $$

FYI--I asked if my DH does the oil changes if it would void the CPO extended 100K/6yr--they said NO as long as we keep receips to prove the oil change was done AND IT has to have BMW parts. We asked that in case we did not buy the ext maint. plan..but seems we are going to.

I bought the ext maint plan with my NEW 325I in 2006 and SOLD IT before I even used the plan. Therefore--I am "gun shy" about buying the plan again. Our dealer lady said that she would NEVER suggest a brand new car to get this plan (wish they told me that instead of PUSHING It on us)....but rather, wait till near the 50K mark and buy then if needed--and DOES recommend it at that point if you still have the car.


SO--this is where we seem to be.....near the 50K mark and trying to figure out if the extended maint plan is good. We just bought this car used...but either way...seems it is the burning question.

For the OP--if you have never changed your breaks seems they may be near due??? Your onboard comp0uter should give you a "guess" how many miles are left. Not sure of the price..someone said $1200 above....toss in a few oil changes and that is NOT $2250! HOWEVER--if you hit that 60K scheduled maintanance that is due....I think it is pricy (that is what the dealer is saying)..so toss in $1200 or so more....it starts to add up. Of course, you could take your car to a non-BMW shop for some basic maintanance that is due at the 60K. And/or change you oil yourself...etc.

GL--I am in the same boat with wondering what is up....

?????? $2250 is a lot....my hubbie can do oil changes....and breaks but to hit the 60 k $$ maintenance....for a bit more

[cinnamonstick]

BTW--I am a chick here--not knowin a lot other than what the dealer "said". So not sure of a lot. Just know there is a 60K scheduled maint. due that I was told is $$....and that your breaks may come due here soon also....put those together...they add up. AND if you can reach the 90K mile check up before the 100K/6yr there is another expense....but maybe you wont jack up that many miles.....it does seem "excessive" in miles....90K at 6 yrs...

[ozam]

I checked with my service advisor and he said there is no 60k check up per se. The car's service is "activity based." Can anyone confirm?

[JCL]

Originally Posted by ozam

I checked with my service advisor and he said there is no 60k check up per se. The car's service is "activity based." Can anyone confirm?

True, there is no such thing as a 60k checkup. There are Inspection I and Inspection II, and the inspections generally come up about every 30,000 miles, but it is based on the vehicle computer counting down the miles (due to fuel consumed, etc), and not strictly on mileage.

[motordavid]

Originally Posted by cinnamonstick

BTW--I am a chick here--not knowin a lot other than what the dealer "said". So not sure of a lot. Just know there is a 60K scheduled maint. due that I was told is $$....and that your breaks may come due here soon also....put those together...they add up. AND if you can reach the 90K mile check up before the 100K/6yr there is another expense....but maybe you wont jack up that many miles.....it does seem "excessive" in miles....90K at 6 yrs...

As JCL noted, a couple posts down, there is not hard & fast "60k mile" check...there is Insp II, which for most of us comes/came ~ 60k miles.
Yes, a dlr will be a bit pricey; a good BMW Indie can do the same for less, usually.
GL, mD

[ard]

Originally Posted by cinnamonstick

sorry for the hijack...on topic.

question.....same boat but the car did have a break change before i bought it.....

computer says 22k for front before breaks and 14k for back breaks...
also...the computer readout said "8" left on the break pads (12-0 I think the pads run).

we r debating the ext. maint. also ($2250 or so). We have 43k on the car now (just bought last week).

One thing the dealer said was there is a $$ 60k scheduled mile check up and $$ 90k mile. Andthe 60K one is very $$



?????? $2250 is a lot....my hubbie can do oil changes....and breaks but to hit the 60 k $$ maintenance....for a bit more

Dealer is scaring you into buying the plan. The female SA is telling you the truth about buying a maintenance plan late (ie unlike what they told you on the new car) because being truthful about this aspect of the sale will help make you think she is honest. What she is lying about is the $$$ 60k and $$$ 90k visits. Total BS.

Originally Posted by cinnamonstick

BTW--I am a chick here--n..

Elsewhere are you a guy?

Just kidding, funny turn of phrase

Originally Posted by ozam

I checked with my service advisor and he said there is no 60k check up per se. The car's service is "activity based." Can anyone confirm?

True, NO 'mileage based' services. (Except maybe 100k issues which, by luck will not be covered by BMW)

Originally Posted by motordavid

As JCL noted, a couple posts down, there is not hard & fast "60k mile" check...there is Insp II, which for most of us comes/came ~ 60k miles.
Yes, a dlr will be a bit pricey; a good BMW Indie can do the same for less, usually.
GL, mD

As I've posted to you before, the extended maintenance is a sucker buy. It is for people who are so limited in their knowledge, interest or time, that they just 'take it to the dealer' for everything. Brakes, oil, rattles, new tires, etc, etc.

The 2250 is probably a bit more than what you will spend on maintenance at a very good, top line INDEPENDENT bmw mechanic. The dealer will just bend you over on this stuff.

If your hubby can do an "inspection I" (do a serach, do not be intimidated- and DO NOT think the term "inspection" implies some german speaking tech in a white lab coat carefully looks over your car) then he can do all the service except a few items. Figure out what they are, and estimate what that will cost. It will be far less than 2250!


The thing that terrifies me about BMWs (or would if I didnt wrench) is the BREAKDOWNS. Maintenance is maintenance- it isn't this big unknown. It will be a few oil changes, a couple of filters, MAYBE a set of front pads and rotors. You know what this is costwise....the big problem will be a blown tranny, or an active damper, or a camshaft position sensor, or a ..... Compounding the issue will be- without an extended warranty- and with a BMW maintenance plan, you will dutifully be bringing the car to the ONE place with the HIGHEST costs for repair: the dealer.

BMW just loves people that cannot figure out these cars can be worked on by non-BMW dealers....

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[cinnamonstick]

Thanks for that great info! This is why I love you guys......

Great to know and something to ponder. I suppose BMW would NEVER offer that deal if they did not make out in the long run on THEIR end!!

I just know I never should have bought it with my new 2006 car...and was not going to get it with this used x5 I just got but...they pointed out "all the reasons" why I should...(60K miles, 90K, breaks etc).

All I know is my hubbie is pretty handy--changed the brakes in my 1995 BMW with success (and the oil)....(never had to do work on the 2006 BMW since it was under the orig. warr.). and does do oil changes on our Durango and his Infinity....


It would be GREAT to save the money--we went for broke with the X5 and dont feel like forking out another $2250 or whatever....if you follow!!


I was planning on using another shop besides BMW for any work after the CPO time is up...to save....

So I think it does make sense....they did say that the 60K was $$ but as you said..suppose "any good mechanic" could do it besides the actual BMW dealership...

THANKS for that info! I will do some searching on schedule II and break parts since I think I will be due "soon". Thanks!!!


ARD--funny!! Girl thing...
Thanks for your long comments and time!