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Old 11-01-2011, 10:34 AM
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If you care to read all this, please let me know who's "not getting it"
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Do you have pictures of it? does it have a long cable to go up to the front or is it supposed to be trunk mounted? I also have an X5, but not sure if it has DSP as well. I'm assuming yours just comes with the DSP module and I could just not use it if I don't need it for the X5, is this correct?

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Dammit...your pm just reminded me that i forgot to take pics. All the parts are in my storage unit and i took pics this weekend and forgot about the Dice. Yes, it has the long cable to run from trunk. It basically plugs into your CD changer and replaces the CD functions on your display/NAV. I sold the DSP unit when i purchased...the E53 "iS" models were equipped with DSP from factory. Here's an image of the Silverline Pro from BSW:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/im.../ssdice007.jpg
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I'm confused. Your thread says "Dice Silverline Pro iPod connector (for DSP equipped system only)", but it sounds like you sold the DSP module. Which would mean it is for non-DSP equipped cars.
Basically it is my understanding that for my DSP M5 the kit would consist of the dice box and a similar looking dsp module box, plus all the wiring. If you only have one "box" I'm afraid this would not work for me.
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Okay...if your vehicle comes equipped with DSP, then you do not need the DSP unit. Non DSP vehicles require the DSP unit...make sense?
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I'm sorry but I'm fairly confident you have it backwards.
The Dice DSP module is an adapter for cars equipped with DSP (Digital Signal Processing), a non-DSP car has an analog signal. The adapter converts the analog signal to a digital signal that the DSP amp can understand.

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Well...considering that i've just sold my 4th X5 in the last 10 years and have been driving BMW's for 15 years...i'm fairly certain i actually know what i'm talking about. I think you're just confusing it. Several people have contacted me about it and knew exactly what i meant by the listing. It's simple...if your vehicle is not equipped with DSP, then yes, you will require an adapter for the Dice to work. If your vehicle already has DSP, then viola.

Don't know what else to tell ya...hope you find what you're looking for.
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I didn't know we were comparing BMW experience, but I have 4 BMWs, right now.
BMW DSP Adapter | BSW
"If you do not have DSP, you DO NOT need the DSP Adapter."
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You have to understand the key word in the link you provided..."some"

"Some (but not all) vehicles equipped with DSP may require a special "DSP adapter" to install certain aftermarket accessories."

Having done similar mods to our other vehicles, i already knew my vehicle came equipped with DSP and certainly didn't require a "DSP adapter"...i ordered the kit, DSP adapter came with it...didn't need it. Perhaps you should contact DICE or BSW to confirm exactly what your vehicle needs.
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I understand the keyword, but I'm afraid you don't understand the context. Having DSP doesn't mean you don't need the adapter, it means you'll most likely need it. If you do not have DSP you do not need the adapter, no questions asked (unlike what you said previously, about non-dsp cars needing it and dsp cars not needing it).
If you take the time to read that page you will see that '02+ cars with DSP may or may not require the adapter. Any car before '02 that has DSP will need the adapter.

So what that means for me is that I will most definitely need the adapter for my M5 that has DSP, and I may or may not need the adapter for my X5.

Thank you for your time.
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Look...from your very first response, you essentially tell me that i don't know what the hell i'm talking about. Yet, you've got it figured out, right? If you understood the "context", then you'd see that the vendor, like most, isn't exactly sure what you require either. "Some"..."may or may not" isn't exactly assuring confirmation, is it?

I didn't experience your issue the least bit...4 current BMW's should make you aware that most vendors are clueless when it comes to your car....good luck.

There's 2 more quotes but I only have one of them and it's basically a repeat of the above. So please someone clear this up for us (him).
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:09 PM
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I would drop it, delete all the emails, and go buy (or sell) the Dice elsewhere. You won't find any satisfaction from this post.
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Old 11-03-2011, 12:51 PM
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For anyone bored enough to read this..."person 2" checkin' in. I've been on this forum long enough for members in the know to know who OP is referring to. Not sure if i'm surprised at the immaturity level of OP to start this thread, or my very own for even responding.

My responses to him were based on my experience identifying exactly what my different BMW's required for ipod/iphone connections/Dice/other brands. Instead...his rubbin' me in wrong ways continues...

I could've shown him how to simply identify what he needed or didn't, in less time than he's spent on his confusion. The quotes that are "missing" are of me throwing hints to him on how to identify what he needs to do. Person 2 never even bothered to consider those hints nor the very first step with anything electrical related (especially German)...

he never even bothered to look at the damn part to confirm pins/coax cable status.
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The ONLY quote missing from you is:
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You're still not even getting it...yet i had zero issues figuring this out. Did you even consider step #1 with anything electric related, especially with a German auto?

Did you even bother to take the system apart and look at it? It's within the very same "context" you understand so well.
The whole point of this thread was not to bash you, hence why I didn't use names. I'm trying to get you to realize that you have it backwards. That is all.

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Okay...if your vehicle comes equipped with DSP, then you do not need the DSP unit. Non DSP vehicles require the DSP unit...make sense?
And I tried to be polite about it, but you decided to throw your "BMW experience" in my face instead.

If you'll post my last PM to you that will complete the conversation. And I KNEW that my M5 has DSP and I do need the DSP module for it. Which is why I was interested in your item since you said it is "for DSP equipped system only".
You'll notice by my last PM that I was trying to save other people from getting confused by you, and upset with you when then buy it for a DSP car to find out that you had mis-advertised it.
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Old 11-03-2011, 01:15 PM
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Did you even bother to take the system apart and look at it? It's within the very same "context" you understand so well.
Well?...

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The whole point of this thread was not to bash you, hence why I didn't use names. I'm trying to get you to realize that you have it backwards. That is all.



And I tried to be polite about it, but you decided to throw your "BMW experience" in my face instead.
The experience was mentioned in your response to me having it backwards...yet i was still able to identify exactly what i needed to move forward on several of said vehicles...you?
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Well?...



The experience was mentioned in your response to me having it backwards...yet i was still able to identify exactly what i needed to move forward on several of said vehicles...you?
Are you trolling me? That's what has to be happening here. I mean you can't be serious, are you?

Edit: I see you changed the wording in your FS thread. My job here is done.
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If you'll post my last PM to you that will complete the conversation. And I KNEW that my M5 has DSP and I do need the DSP module for it. Which is why I was interested in your item since you said it is "for DSP equipped system only".
You'll notice by my last PM that I was trying to save other people from getting confused by you, and upset with you when then buy it for a DSP car to find out that you had mis-advertised it.
I did exactly what post #2 suggested to you...as it was not worth my time. I failed to digress. If you knew what your M5 required, why are still confused on what your X5 requires?

No one has yet shown your level of confusion. Several buyers inquiring, seem to be already aware of what this part means to their system as they've already either inspected their units or have been in communication with vendor/manufacturer...
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Are you trolling me? That's what has to be happening here. I mean you can't be serious, are you?

Edit: I see you changed the wording in your FS thread. My job here is done.
Trolling? You seemed to have enough time on your hands to look through my profile, no? How can one troll a thread involving them?

My 4 sale thread specifically lists E53 X5 parts, right? Oh and changed the title back just for you
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Oh, you're just an idiot, sorry. It's hard to differentiate between a troll and an idiot.

And no, you didn't change it back, you just changed it a little more. Good luck.

PS. There is no DICE unit specifically made for E53 X5s.

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Old 11-03-2011, 02:24 PM
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PS. There is no DICE unit specifically made for E53 X5s.
Nope...but threads specifically listing E53 parts do not exactly translate to M5 parts.

When all else fails...attack character and not subject or "context", eh? Go ahead...have the last word

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