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Maruzo 05-02-2020 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1182731)
I have to say I appreciate your new approach regarding this thread.

I am am a micro business (not a small business) as I am the only person employed by Digital Competition Systems. I have never considered asking the Government for making my business successful, I am the only one responsible for failure or success .

So no, I do not qualify for any SBA or any other Government programs. In my opinion, asking for help from the Government for help is accepting the fact that I cannot provide for myself or my family and I am nothing but a failure in my business or personal ambitions. I have never sucked off the Government tit and never will. I have been raised to be the captain of my own destiny. (Sink or swim if you will.)

Even my wife could claim she is scared to work at Target because of the pandemic and could be claiming unemployment insurance along with the Federal Pandemic Unemployment Assistance to be making $900 a week but that is is just dishonest and deception and we will not be a part of the welfare state.

As far as the masks go, you do realize the even the N95 masks will filter only up to 0.3 microns and the Corona Virus infection droplets are .06 to .15 microns so the opinions of masks protecting the population in this thread are null and void. PERIOD.
That’s the most absurd. The mask blocks the carriers aerosol from exiting into the public space when he/she coughs or sneezes.

Compare the difference in the amount of aerosol entering the atmosphere between a mask user and a non user, it’s really not that hard to realize mask will save lives.

Overboost 05-02-2020 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Maruzo (Post 1182732)
That’s the most absurd. The mask blocks the carriers aerosol from exiting into the public space when he/she coughs or sneezes.

Compare the difference in the amount of aerosol entering the atmosphere between a mask user and a non user, it’s really not that hard to realize mask will save lives.
Again, facts:

N95 masks filter .3 microns whether in or out and Corona Virus infection droplets are .06 to .15 microns. Masks are doing dick. I know facts are hard for you to accept but it is what it is. Deal with it.

Happy 05-02-2020 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bcredliner (Post 1182729)
What should I read to learn what you have? Are you not buying it because of information you have found or is it just a feeling?

BC, I read constantly. Not just throughout this pandemic, but it’s my past time. I’ll watch news, but it seems like it is just propaganda now a days. The fake news movement, isn’t something I have warmed up to. But, propaganda has been around for a looooong time.

When you find inconsistencies in a story (covid19 pandemic), that usually means the whole truth has not been disclosed. JMHO..

Now for me a feeling, would be my faith. This is unexplainable. However I will say this, many times in my life when I had a bad feeling, a situation ensued.

I haven’t had a good feeling, and the science doesn’t quite add up throughout this pandemic.

Happy 05-02-2020 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1182733)
Again, facts: I know facts are hard for you to accept but it is what it is. Deal with it.
Especially if you tell the the fourth angel poured the plague out on the earth.

Maruzo 05-02-2020 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1182733)
Again, facts:

N95 masks filter .3 microns whether in or out and Corona Virus infection droplets are .06 to .15 microns. Masks are doing dick. I know facts are hard for you to accept but it is what it is. Deal with it.
So you are against the recommendation of CDC, WHO, and Dr Fauci? Because they all recommend mask wearing to reduce the infection rate.

I seriously doubt your opinion holds jack against these experts’ findings.

But hey, you have ur individual right to believe what u believe in. Just let me know next time u r in town please.

EODguy 05-03-2020 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Maruzo (Post 1182738)
So you are against the recommendation of CDC, WHO, and Dr Fauci? Because they all recommend mask wearing to reduce the infection rate.



I seriously doubt your opinion holds jack against these experts’ findings.



But hey, you have ur individual right to believe what u believe in. Just let me know next time u r in town please.
Ok you can't have it both ways....

Masks protect you!

or

Masks don't protect you!

You keep telling me how the masks protect you then why did you push the "wear a mask or stay home" BS?

Then oh.... The masks just block it when some carrier coughs or sneezes!

If it stops it leaving someone's mask then shouldn't your mask be just as good if not better since inhaling is probably less than 10% of the 200 mph sneeze?

My problem is that many times what people have said on here is that if someone doesn't take the precautions they want then screw it they should be forced to stay at home/not work and who cares about someone else's Rights?

The problem with having a "group" push any agenda is that it always leads to Rights being trampled in another area and by the next or opposing group using it as a precedent.

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EODguy 05-03-2020 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bcredliner (Post 1182691)
1. OK- for the greater good, as an American I should do my part.

2. OK-for my benefit, those most dear to me and all other Americans.

3. I don't expect any program to make me whole but will help.Thats good.

4. OK-The guidelines are voluntary and temporary. No rights or control lost.
I have zero problems with you or anyone doing things to protect yourself and your family.

I do have an issue with shutdowns that are forced.

Movements prohibited in private business and public spaces and as I said before only in cases like that of typhoid Mary did the courts allow curtailing of a person's Rights. I don't have kung flu and unless someone has been proven to be like typhoid Mary then they shouldn't be forced to stay at home, wear a mask, not work and so on.

The "bailout" seriously? Doesn't anyone understand that does nothing but shift the date of destruction and make it much worse.

The rules are voluntary? Have you not seen how many people are being issued tickets, penalties, etc. just for breaking those "voluntary" rules?

I suggest a search of the internet if you would like to see videos and/or news reports showing just how voluntary has been redefined these days.

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X5only 05-03-2020 02:20 AM
On a light note, I wonder what other Covid-19 cockamamie treatment wonder boy Jared Kushner has cooked up to feed dr. Trump - smack your behind hard to boost your immune system against covid-19? Not too far fetched a proposition :D. Standby for the next breaking news :thumbup:.

Maruzo 05-03-2020 07:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EODguy (Post 1182742)
Ok you can't have it both ways....

Masks protect you!

or

Masks don't protect you!

You keep telling me how the masks protect you then why did you push the "wear a mask or stay home" BS?

Then oh.... The masks just block it when some carrier coughs or sneezes!

If it stops it leaving someone's mask then shouldn't your mask be just as good if not better since inhaling is probably less than 10% of the 200 mph sneeze?

My problem is that many times what people have said on here is that if someone doesn't take the precautions they want then screw it they should be forced to stay at home/not work and who cares about someone else's Rights?

The problem with having a "group" push any agenda is that it always leads to Rights being trampled in another area and by the next or opposing group using it as a precedent.

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How is it bs with the more than 1 million Infected numbers of cases?

Other country don’t have 1 million infected with 10s of thousands new cases added each day.

I said don’t open the economy on an arbitrary date. I am for a limited and careful reopening.

I said hammer and dance.

We have to do both mask + stay home because we didn’t contain it in the first place.

Why didn’t we contain it? Because we discounted the virus and did absolutely nothing when we could have been doing wide testing and tracing.

And because as late as late March we were still fed garbage like mask isn’t that effective while countries like Korea and Taiwan were wearing them as early as January and february.

Just go google what these countries did in the early days of the pandemic.

You don’t have to listen to me, their effective strategies are open public knowledge.

Overboost 05-03-2020 08:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maruzo (Post 1182738)
So you are against the recommendation of CDC, WHO, and Dr Fauci? Because they all recommend mask wearing to reduce the infection rate.

I seriously doubt your opinion holds jack against these experts’ findings.

But hey, you have ur individual right to believe what u believe in. Just let me know next time u r in town please.
Here are some studies done by doctors and scientists that I read regarding the effectiveness of surgical and N95 masks to protect healthcare professionals. There are several studies documented so feel free to read it for yourself.

None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22188875/


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