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bcredliner 05-03-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1182731)
I have to say I appreciate your new approach regarding this thread.

I am am a micro business (not a small business) as I am the only person employed by Digital Competition Systems. I have never considered asking the Government for making my business successful, I am the only one responsible for failure or success .

So no, I do not qualify for any SBA or any other Government programs. In my opinion, asking for help from the Government is accepting the fact that I cannot provide for myself or my family and I am nothing but a failure in my business or personal ambitions. I have never sucked off the Government tit and never will. I have been raised to be the captain of my own destiny. (Sink or swim if you will.)

Even my wife could claim she is scared to work at Target because of the pandemic and could be claiming unemployment insurance along with the Federal Pandemic Unemployment Assistance to be making $900 a week but that is is just dishonest and deception and we will not be a part of the welfare state.

As far as the masks go, you do realize the even the N95 masks will filter only up to 0.3 microns and the Corona Virus infection droplets are .06 to .15 microns so the opinions of masks protecting the population in this thread are null and void. PERIOD.

I believe there is a separate program for you, not sure. I know that you do qualify for unemployment and you will be getting be getting the $1.200 check as your wife will also and more if you have children.

I don't think you should view any financial difficulties caused by the virus as a personal failure. Everyone is being helped by at least one Fed program. It's being paid for from our tax contributions.

Nothing dishonest if the program is there for you.

What is the source of your information that the N95 masks are insufficient? I would like to read what you found. It has been my understanding they were cleared for use during the mask shortage.

bcredliner 05-03-2020 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy (Post 1182735)
BC, I read constantly. Not just throughout this pandemic, but it’s my past time. I’ll watch news, but it seems like it is just propaganda now a days. The fake news movement, isn’t something I have warmed up to. But, propaganda has been around for a looooong time.

When you find inconsistencies in a story (covid19 pandemic), that usually means the whole truth has not been disclosed. JMHO..

Now for me a feeling, would be my faith. This is unexplainable. However I will say this, many times in my life when I had a bad feeling, a situation ensued.

I haven’t had a good feeling, and the science doesn’t quite add up throughout this pandemic.


Hard to have any good feelings with a pandemic circling overhead. . Can you give me an example or two of inconsistencies, things that don't add up and what science hasn't added up?

bcredliner 05-03-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1182733)
Again, facts:

N95 masks filter .3 microns whether in or out and Corona Virus infection droplets are .06 to .15 microns. Masks are doing dick. I know facts are hard for you to accept but it is what it is. Deal with it.

Why do you think the N95 masks are approved for use if they are ineffective?

Overboost 05-03-2020 10:01 AM

As Amuzo pointed out, I am not an expert. I can only research and read articles from the web. Masks do offer some protection but to think that they will protect you completely from the Corona Virus would be disingenuous at best.

Here are 2 of the articles I was referencing along with the studies listed above.

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuha...fective-2020-1

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/...e-coronavirus/

bcredliner 05-03-2020 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1182755)
As Amuzo pointed out, I am not an expert. I can only research and read articles from the web. Masks do offer some protection but to think that they will protect you completely from the Corona Virus would be disingenuous at best.

Here are 2 of the articles I was referencing along with the studies listed above.

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuha...fective-2020-1

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/...e-coronavirus/

I didn't read the first article because it requires I turn off ad blocker but it is referenced in the second article. The way I read the second article is that many masks including the N95 mask do stop the virus. What part are you referencing that says they don't?

upallnight 05-03-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bcredliner (Post 1182757)
I didn't read the first article because it requires I turn off ad blocker but it is referenced in the second article. The way I read the second article is that many masks including the N95 mask do stop the virus. What part are you referencing that says they don't?

The mask is supposed to stop the wearer from expelling the virus (through micro-droplet or spit) to others if they are wearing the mask. To prove this theory put on a mask go to the bathroom and try spitting with the mask on onto the mirror. Do you see any spits on the mirror? Now take the mask off and spit on the mirror. See the difference? It's not "Rocket Science" people. The mask is just another barrier to stop the spread of the virus.

upallnight 05-03-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Maruzo (Post 1182732)
That’s the most absurd. The mask blocks the carriers aerosol from exiting into the public space when he/she coughs or sneezes.

Compare the difference in the amount of aerosol entering the atmosphere between a mask user and a non user, it’s really not that hard to realize mask will save lives.

:thumbup: You Got It.

Overboost 05-03-2020 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bcredliner (Post 1182757)
I didn't read the first article because it requires I turn off ad blocker but it is referenced in the second article. The way I read the second article is that many masks including the N95 mask do stop the virus. What part are you referencing that says they don't?

https://smartairfilters.com/wordpres...us-768x549.jpg

bcredliner 05-03-2020 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1182761)
The mask is supposed to stop the wearer from expelling the virus (through micro-droplet or spit) to others if they are wearing the mask. To prove this theory put on a mask go to the bathroom and try spitting with the mask on onto the mirror. Do you see any spits on the mirror? Now take the mask off and spit on the mirror. See the difference? It's not "Rocket Science" people. The mask is just another barrier to stop the spread of the virus.

I understand the importance of masks and who they protect. Overboost has another opinion and I was merely asking for information to understand how he came to a different conclusion.

Note-choosing not to respond to "its not rocket science people" comment.

bcredliner 05-03-2020 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1182770)

Yes, this is within the second article. If you read further to the start of section two, the second article disagrees with the business Insider article. At least part of the reason for the second article is pointing out the flaws in the Business Insider article.


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