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Maruzo 05-18-2020 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EODguy (Post 1183750)
I know what you mean Happy and that some people don't understand what freedom really means is disheartening and I definitely understand the price too. Pretty sad when you wish you could get an MRI scan for things yet apparently magnets and frag are still beyond doctors. [emoji849]

Thank you for serving too bro and even if we disagree sometimes we know that it's ok to do so. I just wish that peoples disagreements were truly based on their beliefs not their "tribes" position and feelings that no matter what the other guys have to be dismissed for not being part of "their" group. Although that was how it worked for the nazi's and during segregation and that's where people seem to want to go back to.

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I like those wheels on ur white X5, EOD. Are they the same size as the OEM 20" wheels for the 4.6is / 4.8is?

You have served this country for a long time, as you mentioned in previous posts. I respect you for your loyalty and sacrifice.

I disagree with a lot of what you say. But at the end of the day it is differences in opinion. I hold no animosity towards you.

Instead of continuing to create conflict, I like to wish you and your family members the best during this time of trouble.

We are all witnessing a most unfortunate and disastrous pandemic this world has ever seen in over 100 years.

I hope this serves as a chance for the good of humanity to shine through and prevail.

There will certainly be an end to this pandemic. Let's hope it ends well for most of us.

EODguy 05-18-2020 11:40 AM

Obama didn't serve either.

Biden had one son serve just long enough to get the Big Chicken Dinner for drug use.

Bernie.... he fits right in at almost any Eastern European country.

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But what is interesting is that our Constitution never made mention of prior military service being a requirement, nor the publication of one's tax records. I would like to see former military in the White House but it's not a deal breaker for me as I only want America to be successful and follow the Constitution.

Taxes... I personally couldn't care less, but it has become the informal norm in our society to present them..

I would rather repeal the 17th amendment and have state legislators choose senators again. Once it became a position chosen by the people, the people chose to do for themselves directly instead of a state doing things to make the state better therefore making things better for the citizens of those states.

I would also point out that previously there was no salary for these elected positions only housing and a stipend for food. The people would go as their duty upon being elected and then return from DC with no additional accumulation of wealth or power.

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crystalworks 05-18-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1183732)
The biggest LOL is you guys have put Joe Biden as your front runner to deliver your hope and dreams of winning the 2020 Presidential election. That idiot doesn't even know what day it is. I mean seriously, after 4 years of whining, sniveling and complaining, that is the best you can come up with? Too funny.

"We're in the middle of a pandemic that has cost us more than 85,000 jobs as of today,” “Lives of millions of people, millions of people."
~Joe Biden

Agreed. I feel for Biden and his family. He is being used by the DNC when he should be enjoying the time he has left with family and friends. The stress alone has got to be taking a huge toll on his mental health as we have watched it steadily decline.

I would have voted for ANY candidate the Democrats put up there. Except Biden. There were around 20 candidates to choose from and they made the same mistake they made in 2016. I am pretty sure, I am not alone. I won't be voting for Trump either, but all the votes that are going to go third party or people who aren't going to vote at all who would have voted Democrat are going to give us 4 more years of the Cheeto in Chief. Maybe the DNC will learn something this time?

As for the belief that the Democrats might have handled this situation better. That may be true to a degree (debatable) but there is no way they would have been completely prepared for it either. Anyone thinking this would have been sunshine and rainbows with the Dems in charge is upholding the tribal politics our country is currently suffering from. You should always be cynical and critical of ALL in government, from all parties. They are in public service for the money. Remember, that is their chosen career, they aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts.

EODguy 05-18-2020 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Maruzo (Post 1183766)
I like those wheels on ur white X5, EOD. Are they the same size as the OEM 20" wheels for the 4.6is / 4.8is?

Thanks.

They're the same and I lucked into them after I actually shattered a wheel on a cutout in the pavement with a 6" pipe in it. I got the whole set for $525 USD [emoji3060] now it's my biggest fear that there won't be any replacements over here if needed. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ff108ba13b.jpg

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Happy 05-18-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1183764)
Senator McCain served our country but the President had nothing but hatred toward him. Called him a loser because he was capture during the Vietnam War. Senator McCain could had come home early but he didn't wanted to be treated special because of his father position in the military.

I am not affiliated with any political party. I am a citizen, but I do not vote. I made that choice during my service to this country.
The ballots have never had any man or women, that I felt truly worthy of my support.

People give me a hard time about this choice. But, I risked losing my life to be able to make this choice. Some voters have never risked their lives for anything, let alone “anyone”. But, yet I’ve been judged in a way by some people that I am foolish for my decision.

I don’t get upset or angry. I make a joke about it by saying, “foolish, for risking my life for a percentage of people who could careless about me, or not voting”? Generally the badgering stops there.

I serve my God, the Christ, and any human being in need, that I am capable of helping regardless of their belief.

upallnight 05-18-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1183770)
Agreed. I feel for Biden and his family. He is being used by the DNC when he should be enjoying the time he has left with family and friends. The stress alone has got to be taking a huge toll on his mental health as we have watched it steadily decline.

I would have voted for ANY candidate the Democrats put up there. Except Biden. There were around 20 candidates to choose from and they made the same mistake they made in 2016. I am pretty sure, I am not alone. I won't be voting for Trump either, but all the votes that are going to go third party or people who aren't going to vote at all who would have voted Democrat are going to give us 4 more years of the Cheeto in Chief. Maybe the DNC will learn something this time?

As for the belief that the Democrats might have handled this situation better. That may be true to a degree (debatable) but there is no way they would have been completely prepared for it either. Anyone thinking this would have been sunshine and rainbows with the Dems in charge is upholding the tribal politics our country is currently suffering from. You should always be cynical and critical of ALL in government, from all parties. They are in public service for the money. Remember, that is their chosen career, they aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts.

At least the Democrats would have used the Pandemic Response book left by the Obama Administration instead of calling it a Hoax or disbanded the Pandemic Team, or cut the funding to the NIH, CDC. Other countries were able to flatten the curve and not have their economy in the toilet like our. Maybe if Trump didn't have this hatred toward Obama things might have turned out a little different, but it is what it is.

EODguy 05-18-2020 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1183781)
At least the Democrats would have used the Pandemic Response book left by the Obama Administration instead of calling it a Hoax or disbanded the Pandemic Team, or cut the funding to the NIH, CDC. Other countries were able to flatten the curve and not have their economy in the toilet like our. Maybe if Trump didn't have this hatred toward Obama things might have turned out a little different, but it is what it is.

Don't forget that if the Obama administration had restocked the national supply of PPE that they used from the 2009 swine flu outbreak America would have had an extra month of PPE on hand instead of the shortages that helped spread it.

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crystalworks 05-18-2020 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1183781)
At least the Democrats would have used the Pandemic Response book left by the Obama Administration instead of calling it a Hoax or disbanded the Pandemic Team, or cut the funding to the NIH, CDC. Other countries were able to flatten the curve and not have their economy in the toilet like our. Maybe if Trump didn't have this hatred toward Obama things might have turned out a little different, but it is what it is.

I don't disagree with any of that, though excepting China, other economies are being hit hard as well. GDP will be down globally, with maybe Sweden (and like countries) staying around "0%" or minor losses. Even China is down 6%+. So even if a plan/team existed, executing the plan in a meaningful and impactful way would have been difficult, at best.

My position is that this was going to suck no matter who was in charge. The Democrats would have shut down and sheltered in place, but maybe sooner. The economy would still have taken the hit. Bailouts would still have been a thing. This is a crazy world event, let's all just keep our eyes and ears open so that we can be realistic about what an even perfect response might have netted. It's pie in the sky thinking to think we could have "defeated" covid by doing A or B, or X or Y.

Happy 05-18-2020 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Maruzo (Post 1183766)
You have served this country for a long time, as you mentioned in previous posts. I respect you for your loyalty and sacrifice.

I disagree with a lot of what you say. But at the end of the day it is differences in opinion. I hold no animosity towards you.

Instead of continuing to create conflict, I like to wish you and your family members the best during this time of trouble.

We are all witnessing a most unfortunate and disastrous pandemic this world has ever seen in over 100 years.

I hope this serves as a chance for the good of humanity to shine through and prevail.

There will certainly be an end to this pandemic. Let's hope it ends well for most of us.

This is what I’ve been hoping and praying for.

upallnight 05-18-2020 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EODguy (Post 1183784)
Don't forget that if the Obama administration had restocked the national supply of PPE that they used from the 2009 swine flu outbreak America would have had an extra month of PPE on hand instead of the shortages that helped spread it.

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It's been 3 years since Obama left office. You expect him to continue to run the government? The shortage is not Obama responsibility. Trump had 3 years to get everything under control, but instead he went golfing. Like most thing certain thing has an expiration date and a maintenance requirement. A lot of ventilators in the national stockpile weren't working because they weren't maintain during their time in the nationl stock pile so is that also Obama's responsibilities? Maybe instead of putting incompetent people in positions of Authority he should have put qualified people in those positions. Instead of reassigning people that brought the problem to his attention like Dr. Rick Bright
his people should have heeded his warning.

Look at 4:20 into this interview with David Muir.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrPTkaO3IBo


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