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Old 05-25-2020, 11:52 AM
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I see we are still nicely divided along political lines. Unfortunate.



Trump is a detestable human being. But he did not impact this any more negatively than a Democrat would have. Pelosi was encouraging large gatherings in late February.







That could be interpreted (probably wrongly) as putting dollars over lives to promote tourism in late February just as Trump gets accused of. Let's stick try to stick to the facts.



1. CV19 originated in China

2. CV19 mutated in Europe

3. CV19 arrived to the US from both China and Europe (we don't know exactly when for either strain, but it looks like cases were here in early December)

4. The European strain appears more deadly (it affected once of the most densely populated cities in the world though)

5. The government was unprepared (as it always is, see Katrina, 9/11, 2008)

6. The statistics are showing we over-corrected in our reaction to flatten the curve

7. We, collectively, spent 6 trillion dollars to buy time

8. The US has lost 38.4 million jobs so far



Call the disease whatever you want. Doesn't change anything about the situation. There will be outliers in every situation and that guy who stabbed the Asian family should be treated as any criminal in his case, with the added caveat of the hate crime statutes. He was 19 years old from Midland and probably doesn't know is face from his asshole. Maybe 40 or 50 years in prison will enlighten him.
Agree CW.

I just don't agree with the assertion from some that everything is Trump's fault or that stating facts is "racist" but my biggest heartburn is that Andrew has done so much to cool things down and even spoke warmly of Sir Cries-a-lot who turned around and acted like tool.
I am now and always have been a sarcastic bastard and sometimes push people too far. I believe that is because I haven't had to deal with civilian type folks whose skin is so thin it can be used as cling wrap.

I hope everyone on here survives financially without needing to torch something for the insurance money.

PS. I know your thinking about another Aero kit, but remember "Happy wife = Happy life" so if you do get another stay away from the swimming pool!!

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Old 05-25-2020, 12:04 PM
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Agree CW.

I just don't agree with the assertion from some that everything is Trump's fault or that stating facts is "racist" but my biggest heartburn is that Andrew has done so much to cool things down and even spoke warmly of Sir Cries-a-lot who turned around and acted like tool.
I am now and always have been a sarcastic bastard and sometimes push people too far. I believe that is because I haven't had to deal with civilian type folks whose skin is so thin it can be used as cling wrap.

I hope everyone on here survives financially without needing to torch something for the insurance money.

PS. I know your thinking about another Aero kit, but remember "Happy wife = Happy life" so if you do get another stay away from the swimming pool!!

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You must not have read what Andrew wrote about me. Just because we have a difference in political view doesn't mean we are not friends. It's the ADULTS that can have these political views and not resort to Name Calling.

Here in case, you miss it here's Andrew's entire write up about our friendship.

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Politico just from their name makes it QUITE CLEAR that they are NOT NEWS.

They are a political far left mouthpiece so it's usually impossible to squeeze anything resembling facts or truth out of their stuff, fortunately I have 'a team of experts' that does the fact-checking and in the 1% of articles from politico that are facts based news i will see them on my feeds.

I will humor you though and read the article.

So the article was pretty amazingly 'news-ish' for Politico but it did not have any real facts to point the blame finger other than saying that the administration didn't want to throw under the bus whomever was responsible for not asking WHO for their test kits.

I stand by my assessment that it would not have made much difference that the damage was already done; there were probably 10,000 cases of covid-19 in the usa by the middle of January maybe many more; there were 100s of 1000s of cases of 'flu like symptoms' and about 20,000 'flu related pnemonia' deaths by the end of January

I did goof on my six-week mention of Europe i though the europe travel ban started mid Feb but it was Mid March. I just looked up some statistics of a normal month of travel between europe and usa and it's a shit-ton; they could have easily been a majority of the infections getting into the usa.

That actually helps explain how fast it got around to every state. (and why it kept growing after the china travel ban).

It doesn't change the origin nor the reason to give a virus a name.

Back to the original quote at the top:

My news feeds are unbiased; there is plenty of actual news to point out the missteps of the current administration but without the 95% bias against that specifically makes the legacy media 'non news'

It's pretty simple to pick out 'non news'; you should not be able to tell a reporters political bent and right or left they should piss you off some of the time; a good reporter should get negative feedback on the same exact article, that's the best way to judge if a reporter is a good one; they report the facts without any spin, but people left or right will spin it themselves to see bias that isn't there.

Back to the test kits.. in the 'real world' not the 'politico' world; The administration was certainly assured by the CDC their test kit would be delivered in a timely fashion and work; with the WHO basically being another wing of the CCP, it's not hard to understand why our government would rather do what they typically do and make their own.

The CDC first round of kits was a disaster of epic proportions in many ways. It did not help the cause at all, it also didn't make a big difference as i've said many times, and now with the new tidbit of how many people came from Europe before the Europe ban, that is likely where the majority of infections came into the usa. Based on daily averages it would not be unlikely that upwards of 2-3 million people came into the usa from europe in the timeframe between the china and europe travel ban.

That being said, 'nobody knew', literally nobody knew where infected people were and where to stop them. Trump got 'into a world of shit' for travel banning China, and he was supposed to prophetically ban Europe also ?

I still don't understand especially with the new news from CDC that covid-19 doesn't spread readily on hard surfaces, how the hell the majority of new cases in NYC are coming from people in self quarantine. Are they sharing MJ cigarettes or something? it's mind-blowing, but does put huge holes in the 'safer at home' concept.

I want to make something perfectly clear for members of xo; I'm having a PERFECT example of a FIRST AMENDMENT debate with a fellow human, for whom i have a TON of respect, I'm not in any way saying Don isn't one of the most awesome people i've ever met (and I have met him in person a few times). He's one of my favorite people to read on xo, and his brain is an encyclopedia of x5 and other cars, we just are on very opposite sides of the political spectrum and i don't have *any* problem with that.

Don and I have had apolitical spats before as well and it never had any ill-will in the very least. I would have a beer with Don any day, the world is a far better place with his (crazy as me) desire to deep dive into couch-potato car repair.

If i had to pick 5 people on earth to start a business fixing cars, he'd be on the list.


I apologize if the word 'ignorant' or 'moronic' is misinterpreted, often people see those as insults when they are not and will get a 'flame session' started.

Ignorant: lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact:
ignorant of quantum physics.

When i use the word ignorant is just means 'the guy didn't know' I'm not sure why that is a 'hot button' word for people but often it is. (almost certainly somebody that gets upset from my use of ignorant is ignorant of the actual meaning; somehow it got turned into a derogatory word vs just factual)

When i use the word 'moronic' it doesn't mean the person is a moron, it means they are *acting like one*, i do it myself plenty so i 'know all the signs'.

I forgot what i used the term moronic to describe but it was most certainly meant so say 'if you did that you are acting stupidly'. That is an *opinion* folks it doesn't mean i know through my psychic powers that the guy actually is a moron.

I call people out on 'moronity' plenty. People give plenty of examples. Do something I consider 'stupid is as stupid does' and I will say; 'dude that was pretty moronic of you'. I will rarely if ever use the word 'moron' as a noun in conversation, I rarely know a person enough that it would be fair to apply that judgment. I would probably land on 'asshole' long before 'moron' ; must easier to objectively determine.

I once got into a big verbal battle with another of my solid favorites on xo; bcredliner; i have no idea what the fight was about but I made it very clear there were no bad intentions on my part, and will take his side proactively in most cases if somebody gives him a difficult time on the forum especially a newbie that doesn't know how to check a start date or post count. I've never met @bc in person, but wouldn't turn down the option (goes for most people on xo; my hyper-extended family)

Families fight; doesn't mean we don't care about each other. We are supposed to be ALLOWED to speak our mind without 'the google thought police' preventing free thought (or sadly most educational institutions especially higher education (i think that's an oxymoron)).

I'm not always right, but it 'rounds'. I have no problem being shown when i make a misstep like above; where i had a date wrong by a significant amount and will change how i discuss the injection of sars-cov-19 into the USA; it's an eye opener; now it makes more sense how fast it spread, because rather than 500,000 people from china it was also 2-3Million from Europe as well, so with my initial 'seed' estimate of 10,000 people that's 2% of 500,000 a number that was probably a bit to high to be realistic but 'within the realm of possibility.

Bump the denominator up to 3M and it's only 1/3 of 1%.

So; say if 1% of the travelers from China in Dec-Jan and Europe from Jan-March were infected that would mean 30,000 infections *all over* the entire USA. This is the injection I believed happened. I don't think that *anybody* could have stopped it because the incubation period is too long and they *just didn't know*.. They were ignorant of the facts that could have stopped it. They did NOT act moronically they in most cases did the best anybody could expect of them, so stop trying to blame people and as i said earlier "lift each other up" Negativity is as contagious as cv-19.

@upallnight; once more; great job on picking out the solution to the #5 cylinder, I would have taken a couple more iterations of diagnostics before i got that far, you were two chess moves ahead of me and your 'one in a billion' comment was spot-on and clever use of powerball money to replace.

That said; re-read that thread about the wheel shimmy giving up; you thought you had correct but did not. I think there was a missing 'not' somewhere that caused you to think the guy replaced the front facing tension struts whereas what was really replaced was the inward facing control arms. There was a very confusing photo of tension strut bushing, but it was to say literally 'it wasn't this thing mine are ok'. Not trying to axe your back, just trying to explain in *that case* you got it wrong, and I got it right. (it can happen either way).

If *I* read the thread wrong and the guy replaced the tension struts mia culpa I think you thought it ended up being the tension struts because he said too late in reference to buying yours, but there was confusion in that yours were the wrong part anyhow. I will definitely post a correction if it turns out they were the tension stuts not the control arms. (however having driven x5 for a couple months with completely shot tension struts that never caused the slightest wheel shimmy, I am quite confident that was a case of control arms (inward not forward facing).

Back from two or three tangents back to the thread topic now:

Everclear (the real one not the Illionis watered down one) is perfect to mix with pure aloe gel to make your own hand sanitizer just make sure the ratio is over 74% ever clear to get to 70% alcohol by volume. I put in a spray bottle to spray the inside of my mask that i leave in my car (or when low on gloves, spray them before i take them off). Great to spray things like a key or a phone; how many people use their phone *with their gloves* when in a store in a hot zone? My poor phone gets slimed regularly with hand sanitizer when i don't have my spray bottle handy.

Praise God with the notice that cv-19 doesn't spread readily on hard surfaces (also that sunlight will kill it).

Vitamin D deficiency is supposed to be problematic; my doc said i'm low on 'vitamin D' (quotes to make it funny for those dirty minds).

I take 2000 IU of D and double the normal daily rec. of C every day i remember.

Get outside, get some sun, for most people that's all the 'vitamin d' required. 'play along' with social distancing because if it's proven to not help at all in the end, it's pretty harmless and 'thought that counts' does matter still; it's kind of like chivalry.

Will i go to a restaurant when they open? hell yes i will, i would do it in downtown chicago. NYC; maybe in Fall; see; common sense; go with your gut and stay safe *for you* don't inject your limitations of self preservation on others; the USA is almost a free country still. I got the 'death stare' a month ago when i cleared my throat and spit from a woman not closer than 150ft from me; you'd have thought i kicked her baby. I *have to* clear my throat occasionally I was sick for THREE WEEKS (like literally in bed sick) expressly from not clearing my nose expressly from wearing a mask due to cv19.

Peace, and yes i mean it. positivity can be contagious as well.
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PS. I know your thinking about another Aero kit, but remember "Happy wife = Happy life" so if you do get another stay away from the swimming pool!!
No kidding! We actually took a drive to go see it together yesterday. She was... Unimpressed. I'll post a thread about the truck for anyone who might be interested. Cool truck with tons of maintenance, but it had its flaws. Needless to say, it was a no go on purchase. Haha.

One nice thing, as soon as we got home. Her first comment upon seeing Red in the garage was "Wow, you have a really nice x5.".
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RE: X5 Unrelated, but Good Information in Times of Need

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No kidding! We actually took a drive to go see it together yesterday. She was... Unimpressed.
I know this scenario very well.

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Needless to say, it was a no go on purchase. Haha.
I generally have the same outcome.

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One nice thing, as soon as we got home. Her first comment upon seeing Red in the garage was "Wow, you have a really nice x5.".
I cannot not speak for your wife, but when that same comment is made to me by mine, it is definitely sarcastic. And it either goes one of two ways. One being, you have a vehicle already stay off the internet. Or two, I am being reminded of the amount of cash that went it my vehicle.

Hahaha... oh well, maybe I’ll get a winning scratcher one day.
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No kidding! We actually took a drive to go see it together yesterday. She was... Unimpressed. I'll post a thread about the truck for anyone who might be interested. Cool truck with tons of maintenance, but it had its flaws. Needless to say, it was a no go on purchase. Haha.

One nice thing, as soon as we got home. Her first comment upon seeing Red in the garage was "Wow, you have a really nice x5.".
Now that’s a smart wife. Prevented you from spending more money on things you don’t actually need, and making you happy at the same time.

That’s what we call a wife with “bong fu win”

Or “the luck to help a husband”

And no jokes on my amateur pronunciation please. I know a lot of you have a “bong” you like to pick my bones with.
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CDC gets to name it. They named it Covid-19. Some call it the corona virus or the virus or some of the other handles that have negative connotations. I don't think negative connotation handles are appropriate. But, we all know what we are talking about regardless of what name is used. My view is none of the names used are wrong to except those that are inappropriate because of their implication. If a significant number of people take issue with those names using them is not being respectful to their point of view. The reason is there are several other names to use that won't be seen by anyone as inappropriate. It is not ours to decide if those feeling valid or not. It is ours to be respectful of them.

If it were 10 years from now, rather than when the pandemic is still going on, using the official name would be important so there is no confusion. But right now whether you call it Covid 19, the virus, Corona virus or silent enemy everybody knows what you are talking about.

The virus was brought to the attention of the administration by both individuals in the administration and funded by the US before we were in deep doo doo. Since Trump is the head of the administration and the early warnings didn't trigger enough action, somebody made a really bad mistake. It is Trump's to manage. Subordinates can't overrule the President. The magnitude of the impact on the welfare of US citizens, the economy and unemployment is his to bear. The buck stops at the leader of any organization. Tump is the President. The performance of his administration is on his shoulders.
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Apparently you can't read or just want to get into an argument. If you read my reply I used the term Mutated, not mix with another strain.
*upallnight.....
How the USA got infected was mostly and I state mostly from travelers from EUROPE. They have genome people with the virus and there are various studies by various group of scientists and researchers that the virus was from EUROPE. The virus may have originated originally from CHINA to Europe but the virus is from EUROPE. When did the USA stop travel between Europe?

Sorry I missed the word "mutated" there, I apparently forgot to have my settings on revisionist instead of English.

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CDC gets to name it. They named it Covid-19. Some call it the corona virus or the virus or some of the other handles that have negative connotations. I don't think negative connotation handles are appropriate. But, we all know what we are talking about regardless of what name is used. My view is none of the names used are wrong to except those that are inappropriate because of their implication. If a significant number of people take issue with those names using them is not being respectful to their point of view. The reason is there are several other names to use that won't be seen by anyone as inappropriate. It is not ours to decide if those feeling valid or not. It is ours to be respectful of them.

If it were 10 years from now, rather than when the pandemic is still going on, using the official name would be important so there is no confusion. But right now whether you call it Covid 19, the virus, Corona virus or silent enemy everybody knows what you are talking about.

The virus was brought to the attention of the administration by both individuals in the administration and funded by the US before we were in deep doo doo. Since Trump is the head of the administration and the early warnings didn't trigger enough action, somebody made a really bad mistake. It is Trump's to manage. Subordinates can't overrule the President. The magnitude of the impact on the welfare of US citizens, the economy and unemployment is his to bear. The buck stops at the leader of any organization. Tump is the President. The performance of his administration is on his shoulders.


Love that Melbourne Red X5M you got, BC. I saw a really nice blue one a few months ago with 30,000 miles for 35G. My heart really yearned for it but I knew it just wasn’t meant to be.

Does it drive better than ur nitro X5 4.6is?
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Love that Melbourne Red X5M you got, BC. I saw a really nice blue one a few months ago with 30,000 miles for 35G. My heart really yearned for it but I knew it just wasn’t meant to be.

Does it drive better than ur nitro X5 4.6is?
It's totally different. Can't feel the road through the steering wheel nearly as much. I like that that the suspension and performance can be changed by a couple of steps on computer. I like that the info on the windshield especially the M mode. I like the launch control. It handles great but it is harder to know when you are getting near the limits. Now that I know the limits I don't care. It's a thrill when the turbos get wound up. Very little lag but a big difference between launch and after about 3500 rpms. The 4.6 launches harder. I purchased the X5M for my wife because I liked it but wasn't sure I would like driving it. It is much better for casual driving and long trips. I did add a tune to the X5m. I like it enough it enough that if things go as planned I will purchase a X5M competition in the fall as my daily driver and start the modding all over again.

Bear in mind I modded the 4.6 suspension shortly after purchasing it in 2002. I do remember that the OE tires wore out very quickly, made way too much noise and it was easy to find other tires with more grip and quieter. Also, that I didn't think it had enough road input in the steering wheel until I upgraded the suspension but stock it was better than the X5M.I really like both but for very different reasons.
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Naming convention aside it is not intrinsically evil to refer to a virus by the source.

Antifa level propaganda to try to attach dumbass from Texas that tried to kill Asians due to covid-19 to Maga. That's the job of the non news.

In most cases when we try to use politically correct speak it dilutes the message?

There's no alias for sars-cov-19 that isn't grammatically incorrect that I'm aware of besides Wuhan virus. Maybe if the non news guys proposed one the grief could be eliminated. I don't have a huge problem with using a politically approved name I'm just not aware of one and typing sars-cov-2 is a pain in the ass.

You are being very prejudicial if you think you can assign how I care for any or all persons especially due to "race" which isn't a thing. There is one race. Human race. "genetic attributes" let's say.

I'm actually not even sure what was the trigger that set you off. To be very clear there was no malace or mean spirited vibe in anything I said so if it was taken that way it was unintended.
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