I am surprised to see no thread on the amish shooting - Page 3

motordavid · #1 10-04-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cmyX5go

HELLO! This was about the poor kids that lost their lives by the hand of yet another wacko!

Do we always have to go to politics?

I'm with L.

Quicksilver · #2 10-04-2006, 01:17 PM

Perfect example.

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Originally Posted by inlacal

Please elaborate.

And, in doing so, please disband the following left-wing tactics and/or observe these rules of objectivity in the interest of having a fair and logical discussion:

Do not resort to rhetoric
Do not resort to hyperbole
Do not quote Michael Moore, Jimmy Carter, John Kerry, Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi (et al) or Zbigniew Brzezinski as sources
Use facts
Be rationale
Do not give me links to websites as if the website itself is a valid and an objective source.
Do not quote books you haven't read
Do not quote anyone out of context as a source
Do not flip flop
Reference Vietnam only if you know what the hell you are talking about
Address why oil prices are higher since our escalated activities in the gulf were (allegedly) for the sole-purpose of securing cheap oil
Try not to impose socialistic rhetoric
Leave capitalistic-rhetoric ("...the oil companies are making too much money...") out of it.

Now...Please...Do explain.

Chris

ylwjacket · #3 10-04-2006, 12:05 PM

One other thing that is interesting. I keep telling my kids that they live in the information age, where they have access to stuff that would have taken weeks, if ever to reach us when I was a kid.

This thread proves that. It is just astonishing that news moves that fast now.

inlacal · #4 10-04-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottie

Can I just say how shocked I am about this story it's dreadful just dreadful.

Ok yes I do come from Dunblane yes my Mum was there on the day Mr Hamilton decided to pay a visit.

So this is very close to home for me I can never get my head round what makes people do this. Shocking.

Scottie,

The sad truth is that the media has done an excellent job at desensitizing the American public and many have become jaded.

Chris

blondboinsd · #5 10-04-2006, 01:26 PM

By killing him it still wouldn't take the pain away and then you would be just as bad as him, I think if someone killed my parents or even my dog I'd have the overwhelming urge to make them feel extreme pain, be I would have the strength to stuck it to them in the big pen!

X5Jay · #6 10-04-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd

By killing him it still wouldn't take the pain away -> (agree) and then you would be just as bad as him -> (disagree), I think if someone killed my parents or even my dog I'd have the overwhelming urge to make them feel extreme pain, be I would have the strength to stuck it to them in the big pen!

I'm a believer in capitol punishment for capitol crime...

E61Silver · #7 10-04-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd

By killing him it still wouldn't take the pain away and then you would be just as bad as him, I think if someone killed my parents or even my dog I'd have the overwhelming urge to make them feel extreme pain, be I would have the strength to stuck it to them in the big pen!

I agree the easy answer is to let your emotions flow, the bigger person is the one who can control your emotions. Its a basic part of being a human not just a animal driven by emotion.

X5Jay · #8 10-04-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by x54.4blue

I agree the easy answer is to let your emotions flow, the bigger person is the one who can control your emotions. Its a basic part of being a human not just a animal driven by emotion.

Well, realistically I probably wouldn't really kill him, but ONLY because I'd also go to jail for that. If I knew I wouldn't go to jail, I probably would. I believe it's OK to kill someone for purposely killing your kid just like it's OK to kill someone who is about to kill you - in that case you don't go to jail. Is that animal behavior? Should I be the bigger person and forgive him just before he pulls the trigger? The only difference is that your kid didn't have a chance to defend himself and it would just be after he pulled the trigger...

Scottie · #9 10-04-2006, 03:24 PM

Is it the "modern day and age" that things are more easy to get the news out

or is society and people turning evil

because when I was a kid growing up in the 60's/70's you sure didn't hear anything like what goes on in the world today. (and I'm not talking about wars)

Not really looking for a in depth discussion as I don't think I will ever understand what makes a person do this. More looking to respect and mention what these people are going through,

as for the press believe me you don't need to tell me about them saw it first hand in Dunblane.

Understanding and religion are beyond me at times My neighbour who was a Jehova's Witness his son was the young lad that got shot in th eye at Dunblane and they gave permission for him to get blood to save his life he was disowned by the Jehova's Witnesses afterwards.

Also something my Mum said to me after Dunblane was when she came out of the School.

That she will never forget the look on the parents face as they ran up to the Primary School shear terror on their face the vacant unbelievable expression
people we know the local butchers shop keepers etc etc their life changing for ever I've seen the aftermath ripping some families appart.

Yes maybe the world has moved forward from the 60's but to what cost and I often wonder is it for the better.

ylwjacket · #10 10-04-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottie

Yes maybe the wrold has moved forward from the 60's but to what cost and I often wonder is it for the better.

Agreed, but all we can each do is try to leave our little corner of a little better place than it was we found it.