WARNING: Political Thread

[B-Line]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

Now I'm going to give you my opinion...

I think your post here is like if 2 Germans were discussing what the solution to the "Jewish problem" was in the 1930s. And one of them was in favor of genocide, while the other perhaps thinks that genocide is rather harsh, and instead is in favor of a policy of containment. Perhaps a third person enters the conversation who thinks the Jews should not be killed, but simply expelled from Germany.

Sorry to say, but I think you've read enough of my posts to know that I think this entire war on terror is a creation of our own government to justify various wars, as well as to justify giving large amounts of our tax money to the war profiteers.

That is my opinion.

Eric, the Jews don't care what the Germans or the Arabs say. To ALL of them there is only one Jewish response.. "NEVER AGAIN" For every six million of us they try to kill, we will kill 24 million of yours.
Once the world understands that, maybe there will be some push forward for peace. But if any Arab thinks the Jews are going to roll over and be cooked in an oven again or pushed into the sea, it's going to be bloody mayhem. And the Jews and Israel are thankful to have the US as it's ally. Cause guess who there coming for after the Jews.. The Christians.

B

[Wagner]

Civilians die in all conflicts, you can't use that as a reason NOT to go to war. My question to those in the area..what makes you stay??

There is a tremendous difference between a terrorist attack on a theatre and a bombing run in a region in war.

As for Germany and the Jews (Eric this always seems to be your common throw back, and I'm not bashing..just stating), that scenario is NOTHING like the current one. Jews didn't overtly go around killing other religions. So that comparison doesn't hold water. I think the general populus needs to remember that this "conflict" has been going on for hundreds of years, not just since the GW administration came along or since 1776. The Marine Corps anthem refers to the 'shores of Tripoli' and was founded to deal with issue around Northern Africa and middle east and trade routes (Barbary Pirates).

I think this is an entirely different type of war, in the 'recent' past wars were battled between countries, not groups scattered around the world. Again, Iraq brings them to one area.

[B-Line]

Btw,

I just want to make one thing very clear. I have nothing against Arab's/Muslims. I have many friends who are Arab/Muslim. If I had only one complaint to make to the Arab/Muslim nations it would be, CLEAN UP YOUR MESS. Get rid of your radicals so we don't have to.

I only hate the people that hate me. Those that want to see the US and Israel destroyed. That's it. No one else. I wish those people could be sniped out but they can't. And since no one else is going to rid the world of them, we must try. If there are other solutions besides the destruction of zion and western civilization, I'm open to hearing it.

BTW, lets not forget, as soon as Israel gave land back to Palestinians, that land was use to fire rockets back into Israel.

B

[BMW X5]

Originally Posted by B-Line

Btw,

I just want to make one thing very clear. I have nothing against Arab's/Muslims. I have many friends who are Arab/Muslim. If I had only one complaint to make to the Arab/Muslim nations it would be, CLEAN UP YOUR MESS. Get rid of your radicals so we don't have to.

I only hate the people that hate me. Those that want to see the US and Israel destroyed. That's it. No one else. I wish those people could be sniped out but they can't. And since no one else is going to rid the world of them, we must try. If there are other solutions besides the destruction of zion and western civilization, I'm open to hearing it.

BTW, lets not forget, as soon as Israel gave land back to Palestinians, that land was use to fire rockets back into Israel.

B

all i can say is Mazel Tov at least someone here understands, not to worry Wagner you're on my understanding list too , Eric you're sorta on a thin line

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by BMW X5

i'm not going to deny the comparison what i will do is say the Jewish people did NOTHING to yield such a responce

Not true. Those who were convicted (and later executed) of firebombing the Reichstag were Communist Jews. Also, most of the leaders of the Communist Party were Jews. And as I'm sure you know, the Communists were the Nazis worst enemy. So indeed, the inference can be made that the Jews were terrorists and an enemy of Nazi Germany.

We know many years later that the Reichstag Fire was actually set by the Nazis themselves and only blamed on the Jews. But at the time, any suggestion such as that would have branded you a "conspiracy theorist". After all, why would a government firebomb their own capital building??

So it is very logical that such a debate would have been carried out by common level-headed German citizens at the time.

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

Not true. Those who were convicted (and later executed) of firebombing the Reichstag were Communist Jews. Also, most of the leaders of the Communist Party were Jews. And as I'm sure you know, the Communists were the Nazis worst enemy. So indeed, the inference can be made that the Jews were terrorists and an enemy of Nazi Germany.

We know many years later that the Reichstag Fire was actually set by the Nazis themselves and only blamed on the Jews. But at the time, any suggestion such as that would have branded you a "conspiracy theorist". After all, why would a government firebomb their own capital building??

So it is very logical that such a debate would have been carried out by common level-headed German citizens at the time.

Actually a Dutchman was charged and executed for that
Marinus van der Lubbe along with Ernst Torgler and three other communist party members.

Stats for the political times back then (again, no real mirror to todays discussion) http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERkpd.htm

[BMW X5]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

Not true. Those who were convicted (and later executed) of firebombing the Reichstag were Communist Jews. Also, most of the leaders of the Communist Party were Jews. And as I'm sure you know, the Communists were the Nazis worst enemy. So indeed, the inference can be made that the Jews were terrorists and an enemy of Nazi Germany.

We know many years later that the Reichstag Fire was actually set by the Nazis themselves and only blamed on the Jews. But at the time, any suggestion such as that would have branded you a "conspiracy theorist". After all, why would a government firebomb their own capital building??

So it is very logical that such a debate would have been carried out by common level-headed German citizens at the time.

you've got a very twisted mind you know that? dont you ever feel that you shouldnt be saying this? at least part of it? do you not understand how this is apples and oranges what you are trying to compare? You are trying to compare the reichtag fire bombing to throwing on a vest and blowing up a club full of innocent lives? or flying an airplane or 4 filled with people into buildings and the capital? Eric really I like these discussions but sometimes I wonder if everything is alright up there with you. You've seriously got to be kidding to make such a comparison. blowing up a government building with government officials though terrorism is at least aimed at a particular group. who were the kids at the club in Israel bothering? or who were those people at the Passover dinner bothering? come on now

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by WagnerX5

Actually a Dutchman was charged and executed for that
Marinus van der Lubbe along with Ernst Torgler and three other communist party members.

Yes, van der Lubbe was a Communist Jew.

The Jew Who Burned the Reichstag

Torgler was the head of the KPD, the German Communist Party. At the time, most of the KPD's leaders were Jewish.

Within hours of the Reichstag fire, the KPD's headquarters were raided. The following morning, all the German newspapers reported that the German authorities had found a Communist memo stating:

Government buildings, museums, mansions and essential plants were to be burned down… . Women and children were to be sent in front of terrorist groups…. The burning of the Reichstag was to be the signal for a bloody insurrection and civil war…. It has been ascertained that today was to have seen throughout Germany terrorist acts against individual persons, against private property, and against the life and limb of the peaceful population, and also the beginning of general civil war.

Originally Posted by BMW X5

do you not understand how this is apples and oranges what you are trying to compare?

That statement above looks exactly like the kind of memos or statements they claim come from Al-Queda.

I think the only thing that is "apples and oranges" is your perception of both.

History repeats itself my friend....

[Thunder22]

Originally Posted by blondboinsd

Get us back on track budget wise and stop the pork-barrel spending and get this war under control, Bush never seems to admit fault and that really bothers me, and the Oral sex? I'd take oral sex over lying to the public about WMD anyday

that's like saying "i'm against rape". no kidding everyone wants those things, HOW would the democrats do it differently? THAT'S the point.


(and btw- i can tell you how, they'll raise everyone's taxes, hand out checks to everyone without a job, give every woman in the country a "1 free abortion" card and make all guns illegal. thanks but i'll stick to republicans)

[drex]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

One of the few Democrats I would actually vote for.

what do you know about barack obama??

were you a previous customer of the crack dealer?