WARNING: Political Thread

[drex]

regarding north korea, you ALL should read up on madeleine albright and clinton's foreign policy regarding north korea....

or let me sum it up for you:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashma.htm

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by drex

what do you know about barack obama??

were you a previous customer of the crack dealer?

You should really consider his whole life and not part. Hell we let a coke/Vietnam War dodging/drunk President stay in office...right now. And unlike our current boy, he actually ADMITTED it.

A&E had a huge documentary on his life.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3936013.stm
http://www.mapinc.org/newsnorml/v03/n1786/a06.html

[BMW X5]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

Yes, van der Lubbe was a Communist Jew.

The Jew Who Burned the Reichstag

Torgler was the head of the KPD, the German Communist Party. At the time, most of the KPD's leaders were Jewish.

Within hours of the Reichstag fire, the KPD's headquarters were raided. The following morning, all the German newspapers reported that the German authorities had found a Communist memo stating:

Government buildings, museums, mansions and essential plants were to be burned down… . Women and children were to be sent in front of terrorist groups…. The burning of the Reichstag was to be the signal for a bloody insurrection and civil war…. It has been ascertained that today was to have seen throughout Germany terrorist acts against individual persons, against private property, and against the life and limb of the peaceful population, and also the beginning of general civil war.




That statement above looks exactly like the kind of memos or statements they claim come from Al-Queda.

I think the only thing that is "apples and oranges" is your perception of both.

History repeats itself my friend....

history does repeat itself which is exactly why i dont want to see an arab hitler

[raptor10]

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Now regarding our good friend in the DPRK, he has the possiblity of setting an "interesting" precedent for world politics. Kim's main goal (with his nuclear program) seems to be to force the US into one on one talks with him, with the intent of lifting sanctions on his country.

If he succeeds, what this means is that to make a superpower bow to you, all you need to have is a nuclear weapon. Other nations will take heed of this outcome and follow in his footsteps if he is allowed toc ontinue down this path.

Whose gonna stop him from selling these toys? We obviously couldn't (or wouldn't) stop them from building them. So what do we do now???

[Wagner]

Realize that there is a whole world out there and other countries such as China, South Korea and Japan need to take control of their area. If this was Mexico with a Nuclear weapon, Japan sure wouldn't be rushing in to talk Presidente Fox out of using it.

[raptor10]

Although it would certain be cheaper (in the short term) if SEA (South East Asia) were to handle these things in country, that is not in the best interest of the United States. The best way to develope economic relations with other nations is to cultivate military interdependence with other nations.

You do know that the real reason that China is upset with NK is because they are afraid we would try to initiate a regime change in NK that might end up with American Military power along that border. That would force them to deal more closely with us, which is something they dont believe they have to do.

[Wagner]

I don't think China could deal more closely with us. We owe them a ridiculous amount of money. And with the global reach of the US and the arsenal of China, there isn't much militarily for either nation to fear. However financially each could have serious impact on the other.

[raptor10]

While it is true that they were a big supporter in the GWOT with regards to Afghanistan, some could accuse them of dragging their feet on this DPRK issue, which is understandable since if they impose trade sanctions on NK, especially in these upcoming winter months, they will have a lot of refugees running across thier border.

However its believed they are using NK as a sort of satellite state to help muddle with the US in the area. Not to mention our 350 Billion dollar trade deficit (2006), or their rediculously unfair import regulations which are inconsistantly applied, then there are the Human Rights Violation, and then the mother of all problems between us and them: Taiwan...

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by BMW X5

history does repeat itself which is exactly why i dont want to see an arab hitler

What made Hitler a threat was not his ideas, but the fact that he was leader of the most powerful military on the planet and had the financial backing of most of the major corporations in the world.

If you are worried about an Arab Hitler, then just make sure that one doesn't end up in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and you will be alright.

[BMW X5]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

What made Hitler a threat was not his ideas, but the fact that he was leader of the most powerful military on the planet and had the financial backing of most of the major corporations in the world.

If you are worried about an Arab Hitler, then just make sure that one doesn't end up in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and you will be alright.

hitler had some very powerful ideas and people who were willing to follow him since they believed him much luck osama unfortunately there you had a people here you have 1billion lunatics, they are not in armies they do not wear uniforms they can not be identified by you or I and exactly how would an arab end up at 1600 pennsylvania ave? dont tell me for the love of g-d that Bush is an arab please dont tell me. You know what scares me sometimes i have ludicruis (sp?) ideas and statements but thats all they are, you actually believe all of the stuff you say thats the frightening part