WARNING: Political Thread

[Quicksilver]

Would you be kind enough the provide the scriptural reference for this statement? Thanks

Originally Posted by WMG/BMW

The bible clearly states that all nations will seek to destroy Israel, but will fail, not by the power of Israel but by the power of God. Israel will stand and can stand alone.

[Scottie]

I'll just throw this in here for you all to consider.

I think it is about time USA had a Lady President.

There you go how about that.

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by WMG/BMW

Lets not leave out biblical implications for the war. The bible clearly states that all nations will seek to destroy Israel, but will fail, not by the power of Israel but by the power of God. Israel will stand and can stand alone. America is not mentioned in the bible, therefore my opinion is eventually the US will end up like Egypt, Rome, etc, will destroy itself internally, most likely by democratic hands, dismantling our armies, and trying the UN/ diplomatic approach of appeasement/peace which will leave us naked, with no military and eventual destruction. We must keep God in our nation and not remove him. Keep God in our schools, since this country was founded on faith and the bible we are blessed. Abortion, homosexuality, liberalism, will surely lead this nation to be blessed no more and then all the evil in the world will come upon us. All I ask is think about it.

Wow, those lines sound similar to something an Iraqi Insurgent would say...just substitute Allah for God and follow it will "all praise be".

And, since this is a political thread if you want to do a God thread...please post it yourself

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by B-Line

Eric,

Not everyone wants democracy. And the UN is not a vehicle for democracy. It is a vehicle for people of vast social, economic, political, climates, to come together as leaders of the world, to discuss and act for the people of the world, some who believe in democracy and others who do not.

B

For some reason people in the USA are under the ASSumption that everyone wants a government like the USA, this is not accurate.

So here we go:

Iraq -
Just tell the citizens when their military can come back. Stop the indefinite push. It almost seems that US troops will not leave Iraq till the administration changes, which is sad. Part of being educated is knowing that you don't know everything and realizing that sometimes..you too can be wrong.

NK and Iran Nuclear Issue -
Make a damn stance WORLD. Stop relying on the USA to come in and make the stance for you. It seems Japan is finally finding its sack and going to lay some smack down on NK, now India and Pakistan...do the same with Iran. OR how about the alternative the USA just says "well, thats fine have your weapon however if we receive one Nuclear attack on our soil we unleash all out Nuclear warfare on the offending nations or terrorist sponsoring nation".

US Congress -
All I can say is the f-in people better get out and vote, since they all seem to whine. Both sides, Republican and Democrat, have done NOTHING. It is not just one side or the other and until people stop voting for a 'party' and start voting for the person, that will never change IMO.


UPDATE: yet another example of US Congressman attempting to push any and all responsibility back on the other party.

HARTFORD, Connecticut (AP) -- Republican Rep. Christopher Shays defended the House speaker's handling of a congressional page scandal, saying no one died like during the 1969 Chappaquiddick incident involving Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/....ap/index.html

What an Ass Hat, how do you compare the attempted hump-hump of 16 year olds to an event from almost 40 years ago.

[BMW X5]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

English please!! I'm having a hard time following this long run-on sentence. Sorry....

As far as Hitler and WWII, as a fellow Jew I really suggest you do more reading on this. Part of saying "never again" is being well educated on what originally happened. And I can tell from many of our conversations on here that you have a number of misconceptions about how the Nazis rose to power and the reasons for the Holocaust. A really good book that I recommend:

Amazon.com: Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

This book is also one of the best selling historical books in history.

This isnt English class I'm done with school so pardon the lack of organization in some or as you might consider all of my responces/posts. As far as WWII as a fellow Jew your suggestion on my misconceptions is based on what? I'm not a history major and do not claim to know everything but from what I recall the German people were very upset with the loss of WWI, the deals they had to make with everyone to disarm etc. etc. hitler seemed to have an idea to pin all their troubles on the mighty horrible Jewish population (I forget his genious idea on that one) So yes hitler came to power by the peoples will though once again memory leaves me as for the order of events. He promised them to rearm and to gain back what they had lost.

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by B-Line

Eric,

Not everyone wants democracy. And the UN is not a vehicle for democracy.

But the UN itself is a democratic institution. They decide things by vote. How is that bad?

The only problem with the UN in my opinion is that 5 countries have veto power, so unless all 5 of them agree, nothing ever gets done. If you were to eliminate that veto power and decide things based on majority vote (i.e. democracy), then the UN would accomplish a lot more.

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

But the UN itself is a democratic institution. They decide things by vote. How is that bad?

The only problem with the UN in my opinion is that 5 countries have veto power, so unless all 5 of them agree, nothing ever gets done. If you were to eliminate that veto power and decide things based on majority vote (i.e. democracy), then the UN would accomplish a lot more.

That is the only problem you see with the UN????? Open your eyes man. They are a useless body very similar to the failed League of Nations.

[BMW X5]

Originally Posted by WagnerX5

That is the only problem you see with the UN????? Open your eyes man. They are a useless body very similar to the failed League of Nations.

The UN much like the congress and senate is useless accomplishes nothing mainly because of the "checks and balances" which dont really check or balance out and just have everyone chasing their own tail. in the end you get a whole lot of nothing done but at least its done legally right

[BMW X5]

THIS is why the UN is useless, they all want to "punish" NK but they dont want to do shit about it, this is how those MFs got to be the way they are, they scare the crap out of the world and get everyone to say ok ok shh, like when a baby starts to wail the parents give it whatever it wants. Instead of saying and sticking to no cargo in/out no travel in/out no support in/out they are now saying well its "optional" this isnt strength this shows weakness and stupidity. NK is just using this time to do what ever they please at everyones expense. They have a nuke congrats they test it and we test ours I wonder whose would make a bigger bang. its because of this willie nillie bullshit that the world is where it is today, fcuk global warming worry about nukes

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/12/wo...rtner=homepage

[B-Line]

Originally Posted by WagnerX5

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NK and Iran Nuclear Issue -
Make a damn stance WORLD. Stop relying on the USA to come in and make the stance for you. It seems Japan is finally finding its sack and going to lay some smack down on NK, now India and Pakistan...do the same with Iran.

I believe Israel would be more than happy to take care of destroying Iran's nuclear capabilities. It's unfortunate that a vast majority of Europe won't stand behind Israel, Germany and France for example. But we all know why. Don't we... These are the same countries that did not let holocaust survivors back home and left them in interment camps after they survived the final solution..