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blondboinsd · #41 11-08-2006, 07:29 PM

Where is my "I win dance" Icon

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Thunder22 · #42 11-08-2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd

Where is my "I win dance" Icon

I take it back, you'll never get it.

blondboinsd · #43 11-08-2006, 07:35 PM

haha we have two way different points of view, but I respect your dedication to the topics

I'll have my reasons and you'll have yours, thats ok

Eric5273 · #44 11-08-2006, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gresch

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The truth is that our troops are contributing to the violence and chaos. If we were to put more troops there, then there would be an increase in the violence and chaos"

wow, where the hell do you get this shit from?

The State Department conducted a poll last month which found that 9 out of 10 Arab (includes Sunnis and Shiites, but not Kurds) Iraqis "believe the security situation and the violence levels would improve if the U.S. and its allies left immediately."

The Cleaner · #45 11-08-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gresch

I'm still waiting for your answer as to what you believe the Dems will do in office. Do you not see the idiocy of blindly voting for someone when you have no clue what their plans are? What if the guy you voted for just because he's a democrat is against the war but never said he was against gay marriage? how would you feel then? are you catching on to the discussion here? will you ever?

jeeeeez.

I think the answer to this is the Dems will not do what the Reps are doing and that’s enough for many Americans (me included). It's clear many Americans are fed up with "staying to course” and since the president has not listened and made changes along the way then the people will start making changes.

I am glad the Dems have no plan, if having a plan means staying involved in a war that your losing, and getting our brave and powerful military chopped to bits I am not sure having a plan is such a great idea. Why not develop a strategy that is fluid? Adapt to changes in conditions? Staying the coarse odr packing up and leaving are not plans that will work.

Thunder22 · #46 11-08-2006, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273

The State Department conducted a poll last month which found that 9 out of 10 Arab (includes Sunnis and Shiites, but not Kurds) Iraqis "believe the security situation and the violence levels would improve if the U.S. and its allies left immediately."

and you drew your prior conclusion from that poll how? please explain how that "poll" translates into "if you add more troops the situation will get worse" (paraphrase)

Who is the "I" in that statement?

Scottie · #47 11-08-2006, 07:45 PM

Oh gresch your a argumentative bugger.

E61Silver · #48 11-08-2006, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaefer

As opposed to what, Ron? The "stellar" Republican plan that has cost the lives of almost 3,000 troops, has uncovered NOT ONE single WMD, and has thrown Iraq to the verge of civil war? Oh yeah... Osama is still at large, and the Taliban are again fighting in Afghanistan.

Winner of a plan...

During all of this, our government has grown to be the largest (fattest) under ANY president (so much for small government), and we have racked up the biggest deficit in our history (so much for being fiscally responsible).

Look, whether the dems have a better (or any plan at all) is truly a moot point. What the electorate did yesterday was send a message: "We don't like what you're doing. It's not working. Get out!" If the dems do not deliver, they too, will be thrown out in '08. Like it or not, that's the way our democracy works. I, for one, hope we get this mess straightened out. The administration will be forced to actually negotiate and find common ground -- in other words, be good politicians <gasp!>. The days of the rubber-stamping of bills are over. At least for two years.

Happy and proud to be part of the American electorate.

Juan

It seems that even Bush must of heard and fired Rumsfeld

Thunder22 · #49 11-08-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottie

Oh gresch your a argumentative bugger.

it's "YOU'RE" !!!!

LOL!

have a good night.

Eric5273 · #50 11-08-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gresch

and you drew your prior conclusion from that poll how? please explain how that "poll" translates into "if you add more troops the situation will get worse" (paraphrase)

That is just common logic. If you injest poison and get sick, it would be logical to think that injecting more poison would have any other result but getting you more sick.

If the troops are part of the cause of the violence, then having more troops will cause more violence.

When are people going to understand that this is not a war that can be won with force. If you raise troop levels, the best you can hope for is an ongoing gorilla war will will last decades like the ones in Columbia and Israel and like the one in Vietnam from 1920-1975, which finally ended when the foreign armies left once and for all. You cannot win when the large majority of the population of the country wants you to leave. You will be seen as occupiers for as long as you stay and you will continue to make things worse, not better.

And BTW, the same goes for Afghanistan.

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