But i guess the question might be since a person is suppose to have the right to say something does that mean he should? Perhaps not. As you pointed out the list is long with people who say offensive things of all kinds in all kinds of media. Where's the good in it? Who does it encourage?

Wouldn't it be nice if the list of people who say offensive things got a lot shorter and people begin to stand up for the rights of others who don't want to hear it? Personally I don't think it's politically correct to engage in conversation that's decent and kind and i for one would encourage anyone to engage in it frequently. I know i'm gonna continue to make the effort.

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I whole heartedly agree and would hope the people come together and express their outrage by tuning out. Problem is much of America is tuning in to this Crud. Look at Howard Sterns popularity and the popularity of gangster rap or other offensive outlets.

Free speech exposes those who are offensive and it is up to the people to stand up and let it be known that we won't put up with hate by tuning out. The sad truth is we are a Jerry Springer society and media outlets are becoming the tabloids of the future.

It will get a lot worse before it gets better.

Why is a show like this needed? Someone on this site likened todays society to a toilet. Does this kind of thing make society better? Or is the toilet what people really want? I can't imagine what good can come from a show that's controversial and the setting is always one which revolves around controversy. Pretty sad IMHO

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Harmony happens whenever different parts get to form a whole by means of congruity, concord, symetry, consistency, conformity, correspondence, agreement, accord, unity, consonance…….

If no one was listening and no advertisers were buying airtime, he would have been gone long ago. Might not be your cup of tea, but it may be someone else's idea of humor or entertainment.

Any consumer of any product has the right to not buy it, just like everyone can turn that dial to the left side of the radio and change the station when they hear something that they don't like. Removing choices that aren't immoral is bad for this, the so-called land of the free.

Your favorite food/drink/car/clothing/bedroom activity may be next! Be very careful what y'all wish for...

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Thin ice, man...you are pronouncing the very situation Imus got into. He probably knows he's not a racist too, probably thought himself a wordsmith, but to those who don't know him, they have no context from which to judge his remarks.

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Some people (say me) like to hear public personal speaks what I am afraid to say sometimes. I tune in to Howard Stern while I am not with my family member 'occasionally'. I lit up my cigarettes for the same reason sometimes. Well it feels good.

I listened to Howard Stern few days after the incident which made me completely change my perspective on Imus. Imus seems to a complete A-hole, racist, horrible person. According to few witness accounts and Howard Stern, he was very overdue (to get fired) regardless to anything un-PC stuff he said. Well Howard Stern could be wrong and put things out of context since he was pretty wrong about Sanjaya.

Unfortunately, I predict that he walks away with 40 mil (less of what Garbus takes home). I love to see nice guys finish first sometimes.

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The language of is contract does NOT prevent them from terminating him for "just cause". No prior warnings or anything else is needed to determine just cause. speech.

I believe Imus crossed a line and if he doesn't think he said anything wrong, then he should not have appologized. Now to sue after he admits what he said was wrong just isn't right. It seems to me he was not genuine we he expressed remorse and I'm sure his admission of wrong will be used against him in the case. I don't know if he wins or not, but I think it will be a horrible blow for corporate america if they can't consider racist comments as just cause.

CBS will not win in a court of law. They will settle prior to any lawsuit so that they can take the high ground of "we'll pay him to leave".....they have no high-ground to stand on as they were the ones looking for a 'controversial' show.

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And it really makes my point about the kind of people who may be listening.

I understand your point. But perhaps this kind of behaviour is a moral issue and the reason why some folks find it disgusting.

But here's another question. If this kind of choice becomes so prevelant in society then when does it become a choice for those who don't want to hear it?
Another issue is the question of why would someone consider what we have been discussing moral entertainment?

Finally; What do we mean by "land of the free"? Does that mean anything goes and if you don't like it change the station? How do you change the station on an ever increasing immoral society that breeds an air that contaminates everyone else.

I guess the example (as poor as it may be) might be a neighborhood of beautiful homes and one neighbor who decides that rats, cockroches, broken down cars, a house in disrepair, and a lots of pets defecating all over the property might be the homeowners right and the rest of the neighborhood should just live with it. (change the station so to speak)

I submit that those who make bad choices do not have the right or the freedom to do things that adversly affect others and that indeed we do live by a moral code that others do not have the right to violate.

You're correct in saying "Removing choices that aren't immoral is bad for this, the so-called land of the free" But we're not talkin about a moral choice are we. We talking about people who wish to contaminate society by broadcasting their immoral opinion, and commentary. I for one wouldn't miss any of them if they were gone from the media tomorrow.

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Harmony happens whenever different parts get to form a whole by means of congruity, concord, symetry, consistency, conformity, correspondence, agreement, accord, unity, consonance…….