from what it looks like, they're not using exchange realtime push to a device but rather use a redirector/active sync to push it via a machine using outlook. Big difference there... The real time push/pull is only to a Windows Mobile device. It will be real news if they can handle a blackberry client and push from the BES server.

Wow, I want one... I really, really want one.. But I'm not about to camp out to get it ! I'll wait..

There is just one feature that I wish they would add. If they could put a small flip, that would cover about 1/2 the screen.. And on the flip, they could have a number pad for dialing.. (like the sony ericcson p800, p900, etc.)

So that way, when you just want a phone, it's easy, but when you want a handheld, you open it up.. You could even remove the flip if you don't like it, like on the Sony's..

That would make the Iphone another giant step towards perfect..

The editor of one of those articles mentioned that using the phone is a six step process. (wake up the phone, select phone mode, etc, etc.)

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Well, here is another review from Engadget....some interesting fact which surprised even me re: what the iPhone has and what it lacks....

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/i...first-reviews/

Here are the important breakdowns of the iPhone:

Well, the first reviews are in. But you may have missed some of the more interesting factoids unearthed by the trio of gadget reporters deigned worthy by El Jobso to get a pre-launch iPhone. Here's a few fresh n' interesting iPhone facts right off the presses:

The mobile version of OS X or whatever it is the iPhone runs takes up 700MB of the device's capacity. Damn son!
There's no way to cut, copy, or paste text! WHOA! Big, big mistake.
No A2DP support. That, friends, is such a huge bummer right there.
Sorry, music can't be used as a ringtone -- even if it's just a raw MP3. No additional ringtones will be sold at launch.

On a PC the iPhone syncs with Outlook for calendars AND addresses! Noice.
It supports Exchange in some capacity, according to Walt, but he doesn't exactly say how.
Pogue again confirms document file reading -- but not editing -- for PDF, Word, and Excel (only).
Adobe Flash support is officially out. It's just not in the browser. Neither is there any other kind of embedded video support. Sorry everybody, that's that.

It will take snaps, but won't record video. How can Apple love YouTube as much as it does and not realize cellphone-shot movies make up a sizeable chunk of the crazy crap you find on there?
More after the break!

Oh, and no MMS. And sorry, no voice dialing, either.
Contact groups can't be emailed as contact lists.

Apple sez between 300-400 charges the iPhone will lose battery capacity -- you'll send it in and get the cell replaced for a fee. Meh. We knew this would be the case, but still, meh.

Apple can (and supposedly will) be rolling out periodic updates -- no surprise there.
Battery life is, somehow, almost as mind-blowingly good as Apple claims for calls, music, and movies.
As we suspected, users are prompted with lists of WiFi networks if you're not nearby a trusted hotspot. We've seen this on other phones, and we're afraid this would get friggin annoying.
It's said to be very scratch resistant. The facade both front and rear apparently just doesn't pick up marring like regular iPods do.
Voice quality is said to be good -- not great.

Anything else we missed from in there?

IMHO, sounds like for the regular consumer who like the stylish Apple products, they will be happy. However, since I rely on my smartphone everyday to conduct important business and some of the things that I can do my Treo that the iPhone Generation 1 doesn't do (geez, no cut & paste, I mean didn't Apple invent that?), I will wait for to see what Apple has for iPhone generation 3 or 4...

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I WAS on the fence and starting to lean towards buying one on Friday until I learned the following:

1) You cannot take a picture and immediately send it with a text message. This is a BIG deal killer for me. What's the point in having a 2MP camera then? Most of my friends that I would have to "e-mail" the picture to, don't have access to e-mail on their phones.
2) You cannot record video. Another deal breaker for a phone this expensive.
3) You only get 200 text messages with their bundle plans.
4) OSX takes up 700MB of your precious 4GB of storage

In addition:
- Verizon is still the #1 carrier in the PHX market, which means that I will not be able to take advantage of the free mobile to mobile minutes for ALL of my local calls. This is very important to me since I recently got rid of my land line, and am now 100% cell phone.

If issues 1-4 listed above were addressed and functional, I may have been able to "overlook" at&t's service level in this market.

At this point, I think I'm going to wait to see what Verizon comes out with in the near future (LG Prada?), to combat the iPhone.

In the meantime, I will be keeping an eye out for hands on end consumer reviews, and performance levels for this market.

I am also going to wait for the Prada, I have the new Bberry and I dont really like it as it doesnt have a camera

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This device is nice on paper, but in RL, it's not that special.
If you want a device for the look, ok, if you need it for business or for real use, go elsewhere.
And what is up with the battery, it can manage to be charged 300-400 times, and if you need a new one, you need to pay a fee...?

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Finally Confirmed: What the iPhone Doesn't Have

• Songs as Ringtones
• Games
• Any flash support
• Instant Messaging
• Picture messages (MMS)
• Video recording
• Voice recognition or voice dialing
• Wireless Bluetooth Stereo Streaming (A2DP)
• One-size-fits-all headset jack (May have to buy an adapter for certain headphones)

Stuff we already knew it didn't have
• 3G (EV-DO/HSDPA)
• GPS
• A real keyboard
• Removable battery
• Expandable Storage
• Direct iTunes Music Store Access (Over Wi-Fi or EDGE)

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I can bet all of my 30 MB FIOS that Apple is going to come up with new hardware that addresses some of these short falls. There is just too much missing for now. the stuff in red is not cool for me.

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no worries super-greg like i mentioned/hinted in my 1st post on this subject.. expect alot of minor glitches and limitations on the 1st generation i-pod... only major issue will be looked into asap likeos crashes..) expext the 2nd generation decemeber 2007 no later than march208 to address all those issues as well as offering a new phone with more hard drive...(20gig) much better

as with the verizon issue.. i fully expect there will be a i-phone for all other carriers after the cingular contract expires in 2 years...

like you.. I will be waiting..

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