All things Apple iPhone - Page 7

Kewl X5 · #1 06-27-2007, 03:10 AM

Well, here is another review from Engadget....some interesting fact which surprised even me re: what the iPhone has and what it lacks....

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/i...first-reviews/

Here are the important breakdowns of the iPhone:

Well, the first reviews are in. But you may have missed some of the more interesting factoids unearthed by the trio of gadget reporters deigned worthy by El Jobso to get a pre-launch iPhone. Here's a few fresh n' interesting iPhone facts right off the presses:

The mobile version of OS X or whatever it is the iPhone runs takes up 700MB of the device's capacity. Damn son!
There's no way to cut, copy, or paste text! WHOA! Big, big mistake.
No A2DP support. That, friends, is such a huge bummer right there.
Sorry, music can't be used as a ringtone -- even if it's just a raw MP3. No additional ringtones will be sold at launch.

On a PC the iPhone syncs with Outlook for calendars AND addresses! Noice.
It supports Exchange in some capacity, according to Walt, but he doesn't exactly say how.
Pogue again confirms document file reading -- but not editing -- for PDF, Word, and Excel (only).
Adobe Flash support is officially out. It's just not in the browser. Neither is there any other kind of embedded video support. Sorry everybody, that's that.

It will take snaps, but won't record video. How can Apple love YouTube as much as it does and not realize cellphone-shot movies make up a sizeable chunk of the crazy crap you find on there?
More after the break!

Oh, and no MMS. And sorry, no voice dialing, either.
Contact groups can't be emailed as contact lists.

Apple sez between 300-400 charges the iPhone will lose battery capacity -- you'll send it in and get the cell replaced for a fee. Meh. We knew this would be the case, but still, meh.

Apple can (and supposedly will) be rolling out periodic updates -- no surprise there.
Battery life is, somehow, almost as mind-blowingly good as Apple claims for calls, music, and movies.
As we suspected, users are prompted with lists of WiFi networks if you're not nearby a trusted hotspot. We've seen this on other phones, and we're afraid this would get friggin annoying.
It's said to be very scratch resistant. The facade both front and rear apparently just doesn't pick up marring like regular iPods do.
Voice quality is said to be good -- not great.

Anything else we missed from in there?

IMHO, sounds like for the regular consumer who like the stylish Apple products, they will be happy. However, since I rely on my smartphone everyday to conduct important business and some of the things that I can do my Treo that the iPhone Generation 1 doesn't do (geez, no cut & paste, I mean didn't Apple invent that?), I will wait for to see what Apple has for iPhone generation 3 or 4...

SuperGreg · #2 06-27-2007, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kewl X5

Well, here is another review from Engadget....some interesting fact which surprised even me re: what the iPhone has and what it lacks....

I WAS on the fence and starting to lean towards buying one on Friday until I learned the following:

1) You cannot take a picture and immediately send it with a text message. This is a BIG deal killer for me. What's the point in having a 2MP camera then? Most of my friends that I would have to "e-mail" the picture to, don't have access to e-mail on their phones.
2) You cannot record video. Another deal breaker for a phone this expensive.
3) You only get 200 text messages with their bundle plans.
4) OSX takes up 700MB of your precious 4GB of storage

In addition:
- Verizon is still the #1 carrier in the PHX market, which means that I will not be able to take advantage of the free mobile to mobile minutes for ALL of my local calls. This is very important to me since I recently got rid of my land line, and am now 100% cell phone.

If issues 1-4 listed above were addressed and functional, I may have been able to "overlook" at&t's service level in this market.

At this point, I think I'm going to wait to see what Verizon comes out with in the near future (LG Prada?), to combat the iPhone.

In the meantime, I will be keeping an eye out for hands on end consumer reviews, and performance levels for this market.

dr.jay · #3 06-27-2007, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperGreg

I WAS on the fence and starting to lean towards buying one on Friday until I learned the following:

1) You cannot take a picture and immediately send it with a text message. This is a BIG deal killer for me. What's the point in having a 2MP camera then? Most of my friends that I would have to "e-mail" the picture to, don't have access to e-mail on their phones.
2) You cannot record video. Another deal breaker for a phone this expensive.
3) You only get 200 text messages with their bundle plans.
4) OSX takes up 700MB of your precious 4GB of storage

In addition:
- Verizon is still the #1 carrier in the PHX market, which means that I will not be able to take advantage of the free mobile to mobile minutes for ALL of my local calls. This is very important to me since I recently got rid of my land line, and am now 100% cell phone.

If issues 1-4 listed above were addressed and functional, I may have been able to "overlook" at&t's service level in this market.

At this point, I think I'm going to wait to see what Verizon comes out with in the near future (LG Prada?), to combat the iPhone.

In the meantime, I will be keeping an eye out for hands on end consumer reviews, and performance levels for this market.

I am also going to wait for the Prada, I have the new Bberry and I dont really like it as it doesnt have a camera

ron_jeremy · #4 06-27-2007, 09:02 AM

This device is nice on paper, but in RL, it's not that special.
If you want a device for the look, ok, if you need it for business or for real use, go elsewhere.
And what is up with the battery, it can manage to be charged 300-400 times, and if you need a new one, you need to pay a fee...?

Quicksilver · #5 06-27-2007, 12:15 PM

100%

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperGreg

[B]I will be keeping an eye out for hands on end consumer reviews, and performance levels for this market.

Eric5273 · #6 06-27-2007, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperGreg

I WAS on the fence and starting to lean towards buying one on Friday until I learned the following:

1) You cannot take a picture and immediately send it with a text message. This is a BIG deal killer for me. What's the point in having a 2MP camera then? Most of my friends that I would have to "e-mail" the picture to, don't have access to e-mail on their phones.

Just so you know, all carriers have email address gateways for their phones.

For example, if you send an email with a picture attachment to [email protected], it will be received as a picture message.

For Verizon, it is [email protected]

That is actually the best way to send a picture message to someone overseas because you don't get charged. Here is a complete list:

http://www.hiptools.net/sms/

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperGreg

3) You only get 200 text messages with their bundle plans.

Verizon doesn't give any text messages with their data plans. On the iphone plans, you can increase your text message bucket to 1500 messages for an extra $10 per month and to unlimited messages for an extra $20 per month.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperGreg

- Verizon is still the #1 carrier in the PHX market, which means that I will not be able to take advantage of the free mobile to mobile minutes for ALL of my local calls. This is very important to me since I recently got rid of my land line, and am now 100% cell phone.

I'm not sure when you make most of your calls, but I faced this same exact issue when I changed to Cingular a couple of years ago. Most people in the NYC area still use Verizon and most of my friends and family are still on Verizon.

However......I don't use my phone much at all when I'm at work, and I don't get off from work until 6pm at earliest. Cingular offers 7pm nights for an extra $9/month. They also offer rollover minutes with all of their plans. I find that most of my use of "anytime minutes" was between 7pm and 9pm. So now with that added to their minimum $40 voice plan, I only use around 200 anytime minutes per month. And I talk on the phone A LOT. Still, I have accumulated about 3800 rollover minutes, so if I want to go crazy one month and talk all day long, it won't cost me a dime.

And I also don't have a landline anymore. I got rid of mine about 3 years ago.

SuperGreg · #7 06-27-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273

Just so you know, all carriers have email address gateways for their phones.

For example, if you send an email with a picture attachment to [email protected], it will be received as a picture message.

For Verizon, it is [email protected]

That is actually the best way to send a picture message to someone overseas because you don't get charged. Here is a complete list:

http://www.hiptools.net/sms/

Verizon doesn't give any text messages with their data plans. On the iphone plans, you can increase your text message bucket to 1500 messages for an extra $10 per month and to unlimited messages for an extra $20 per month.

I'm not sure when you make most of your calls, but I faced this same exact issue when I changed to Cingular a couple of years ago. Most people in the NYC area still use Verizon and most of my friends and family are still on Verizon.

However......I don't use my phone much at all when I'm at work, and I don't get off from work until 6pm at earliest. Cingular offers 7pm nights for an extra $9/month. They also offer rollover minutes with all of their plans. I find that most of my use of "anytime minutes" was between 7pm and 9pm. So now with that added to their minimum $40 voice plan, I only use around 200 anytime minutes per month. And I talk on the phone A LOT. Still, I have accumulated about 3800 rollover minutes, so if I want to go crazy one month and talk all day long, it won't cost me a dime.

And I also don't have a landline anymore. I got rid of mine about 3 years ago.

Problem is, I work from home

MiCkEy · #8 06-27-2007, 09:29 AM

have fun comparing:
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Finally Confirmed: What the iPhone Doesn't Have

• Songs as Ringtones
• Games
• Any flash support
• Instant Messaging
• Picture messages (MMS)
• Video recording
• Voice recognition or voice dialing
• Wireless Bluetooth Stereo Streaming (A2DP)
• One-size-fits-all headset jack (May have to buy an adapter for certain headphones)

Stuff we already knew it didn't have
• 3G (EV-DO/HSDPA)
• GPS
• A real keyboard
• Removable battery
• Expandable Storage
• Direct iTunes Music Store Access (Over Wi-Fi or EDGE)

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I can bet all of my 30 MB FIOS that Apple is going to come up with new hardware that addresses some of these short falls. There is just too much missing for now. the stuff in red is not cool for me.

PLAYERPRO · #9 06-27-2007, 11:55 AM

no worries super-greg like i mentioned/hinted in my 1st post on this subject.. expect alot of minor glitches and limitations on the 1st generation i-pod... only major issue will be looked into asap like

os crashes..) expext the 2nd generation decemeber 2007 no later than march208 to address all those issues as well as offering a new phone with more hard drive...(20gig) much better

as with the verizon issue.. i fully expect there will be a i-phone for all other carriers after the cingular contract expires in 2 years...

like you.. I will be waiting..

Eric5273 · #10 06-29-2007, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLAYERPRO

as with the verizon issue.. i fully expect there will be a i-phone for all other carriers after the cingular contract expires in 2 years...

like you.. I will be waiting..

The Cingular/AT&T exclusive is actually 5 years.

http://crunchgear.com/2007/05/23/att...-preps-answer/

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