Photo Radar Ticket

pseto · #1 09-07-2005, 04:30 PM

Just got one in the mail the other day. Its from DC for $50, doing 58 mph in a 45 mph zone. I'd understand if I was doing 80+ in a 55 speed limit, but this is somewhat petty.

Since no points are involved, I'll probably just stick a check in the mail...unless anyone has a good way/explanation to fight it.

What argument(s) do people use when govts keep prying into people's privacy with these 'big' brother' cameras?

I guess I'll have to get one of those sprays to 'hide' my license plate or something.

B-Line · #2 09-07-2005, 08:08 PM

I don't think that spray stuff works.. At least that's my understanding..

Do what I do.. Lose the front plate. Yeah, occassionally I get a fix-it ticket or a $25 fine. I'd rather pay that then the private corporations that run photo radar. And yes, these devices are not run by the state, but by private corporations that get a percentage of the fines for every ticket that is issued.

Damn the man !!

X5Jay · #3 09-07-2005, 08:25 PM

My personal rule is to fight tickets, no matter what the situation. The system is there for you and you pay dearly for it. Lord knows your opponents are exploiting the system to the fullest...

Use the time between now and your court date to research and develop a strategy, and enjoy the learning experience, no matter what the verdict.

just my $.02...

JV · #4 09-07-2005, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pseto

Just got one in the mail the other day. Its from DC for $50, doing 58 mph in a 45 mph zone. I'd understand if I was doing 80+ in a 55 speed limit, but this is somewhat petty.

Since no points are involved, I'll probably just stick a check in the mail...unless anyone has a good way/explanation to fight it.

What argument(s) do people use when govts keep prying into people's privacy with these 'big' brother' cameras?

I guess I'll have to get one of those sprays to 'hide' my license plate or something.

Did you get yours on 295 or 16th Street?

The DC Government has hired a Collections Company to pursue delinquent tickets, parking, speeding, any ticket. They use traffic and parking tickets as a major source of revenue, you know that. If you try and fight it in court or via www.parkingticket.com, and it goes to Collections, on purpose or by mistake, you'll have to fight like hell to remove it from your credit report (first hand knowledge of this).

Write that check, ease your mind.

JV

Juanted · #5 09-07-2005, 08:37 PM

I am of the belief that if I am willing to break the law by speeding, then I must be willing to pay the price if I get caught.

The ONLY ticket I fought was one in which the a$$hole cop gave me a ticket for parking in a Fire Lane even though the sidewalk was not painted and there was not one single sign stating that this was a fire lane. I won. (Took pictures and everything

.) To this day, I am convinced he wanted to give a ticket to the guy in the expensive luxury car.

Pay the ticket, I say. How much is your time worth trying to fight a ticket for which you're clearly guilty?

Juan

B-Line · #6 09-08-2005, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaefer

I am of the belief that if I am willing to break the law by speeding, then I must be willing to pay the price if I get caught.
Juan

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BMWood5 · #7 09-08-2005, 05:14 AM

$50.00 ticket? Hmmmm, is it gonna kill that new M badge you wanna get

Now if it will be $400.00 and a suspended liscence, fight all the way to the Supreme Court

Smiley · #8 09-08-2005, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JVZ104

Did you get yours on 295 or 16th Street?

The DC Government has hired a Collections Company to pursue delinquent tickets, parking, speeding, any ticket. They use traffic and parking tickets as a major source of revenue, you know that. If you try and fight it in court or via www.parkingticket.com, and it goes to Collections, on purpose or by mistake, you'll have to fight like hell to remove it from your credit report (first hand knowledge of this).

Write that check, ease your mind.

JV

I swear, when I used to take 295S into work and pass the unmarked camera car, the officer in it was either reading the paper, talking on the phone, or sleeping. I thought it was pretty funny (probably cause I never got the ticket). However, my wife has built up her photo portfolio on Michigan Ave.

pseto · #9 09-08-2005, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JVZ104

Did you get yours on 295 or 16th Street?

The DC Government has hired a Collections Company to pursue delinquent tickets, parking, speeding, any ticket. They use traffic and parking tickets as a major source of revenue, you know that. If you try and fight it in court or via www.parkingticket.com, and it goes to Collections, on purpose or by mistake, you'll have to fight like hell to remove it from your credit report (first hand knowledge of this).

Write that check, ease your mind.

JV

I got it on the 3rd street tunnel. From what I understand, they have cameras on both sides of the tunnel. I know about the other 2 you mentioned. Know of any others?

PersonaNonGrata · #10 09-07-2005, 08:58 PM

I can't say for sure but a good approach might be based on a lack of identity argument. The cameras are usually pretty good but it might not show you very well. Another approach is to attack the foundation of the photograph and its introduction as evidence against you. BUT... most traffic hearing officers have been trained on all this and agencies/cities have covered this angle. I don't know much about this stuff. I'm just thinking out loud. I don't get speeding tickets.

As for the invasion of privacy thing, it's a loser. If you're out in public where anyone can see you or take your picture, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy, and your vehicle is considered a public place.

Good luck!