Why American car companies suck - Page 3

blondboinsd · #21 03-15-2009, 04:10 AM

I would be pissed as well B. It must be the dealer. When I bought my X5 from Beverly Hills BMW I got to test drive till I was blue in the face. Same thing goes for Hornburg Land Rover with regards to a full test drive of a RR S/C. Down here in SD I test drove a fully loaded Cadillac Escalade Hybrid with no questions asked. I of course took 3 looks at the interior of it and ran for the hills but that is another thread. I don't think it's Cadillac as a brand's fault their dealerships suck. It's only been a few years since Cadillac moved towards a BMW fighter. The dealers don't change overnight but that is still no excuse. Cadillac should be extremely concerned that their dealers are not stacking up because if they want to play with the big boys they need to bring everything to the table. Until then you will keep seeing them bribing their buyers (huge rebates, employee pricing etc) to move their fleet.

Seriously thou B let's be real. There is no way someone looking at an AMG Mercedes would downgrade themselves enough to buy a Cadillac. Perhaps they sensed their disadvantage and cut their losses.

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E61Silver · #22 03-15-2009, 09:17 AM

I think the problem is that dealers are trying to keep costs low and do not have demonstrators.

Juanted · #23 03-15-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd

Seriously thou B let's be real. There is no way someone looking at an AMG Mercedes would downgrade themselves enough to buy a Cadillac. Perhaps they sensed their disadvantage and cut their losses.

Huh? Why not? The only thing the CTS-V did was run the fastest lap ever for a stock, four-passenger car at Nuernbergring!

B, as you know, the dealers are independently-owned. I understand your frustration, but this is not GM acting like asshats; it's the dealerships.

Wagner · #24 03-15-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaefer

Huh? Why not? The only thing the CTS-V did was run the fastest lap ever for a stock, four-passenger car at Nuernbergring!

B, as you know, the dealers are independently-owned. I understand your frustration, but this is not GM acting like asshats; it's the dealerships.

keep disrespecting that Caddy, till it leaves your 6 figure M & its V10 in the dust

LeMansX5 · #25 03-15-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Wagner

keep disrespecting that Caddy, till it leaves your 6 figure M & its V10 in the dust

///M's V10 will soon be in dust anyway.

noncom23 · #26 03-15-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaefer

Huh? Why not? The only thing the CTS-V did was run the fastest lap ever for a stock, four-passenger car at Nuernbergring!

B, as you know, the dealers are independently-owned. I understand your frustration, but this is not GM acting like asshats; it's the dealerships.

So its safe to assume that Ca, Cadillac dealers are not feeling the pain of the economy. It must be so if those dealers can set such high criteria on just a test drive...

MrLabGuy · #27 03-15-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273

The only car I've ever been told this about was a Ferrari. They basically wanted to run my credit and negotiate a price before I drove it, and since I had no intention of buying it, I just left. But even when I leased a $90k Acura NSX, they let me test drive it first. I've also test driven a Porsche 911 before with no problem.

Wait...You wanted to test drive a Ferrari, you leased a $90K Acura NSX and were looking at a Porsche 911 and you don't pay a percentage of your employees health care?

Instead you'd like the rest of us to pay...Nice.

MrLabGuy · #28 03-15-2009, 01:52 PM

Hey-B...You're right. You'd be hard pressed to find a GM dealership or any American manufacturer who will let you test drive ANY of the high end performance vehicles. I could not test drive the Z06 Vet or even the 300 SRT-8 when it came out. Last November when sales started to slump I was able to test drive the SRT-8 which surprised me and I ended up buying the car.

I would almost NEVER buy a car without test driving it first unless it was an exotic with a good reputation.

blondboinsd · #29 03-15-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MrLabGuy

Wait...You wanted to test drive a Ferrari, you leased a $90K Acura NSX and were looking at a Porsche 911 and you don't pay a percentage of your employees health care?

Instead you'd like the rest of us to pay...Nice.

Good Call! Of course it doesn't count. Why should erik pay when someone else can? That way he can lease another expensive car! I smell a hypocrite...

blondboinsd · #30 03-15-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaefer

Huh? Why not? The only thing the CTS-V did was run the fastest lap ever for a stock, four-passenger car at Nuernbergring!

B, as you know, the dealers are independently-owned. I understand your frustration, but this is not GM acting like asshats; it's the dealerships.

Trust me I know that sucker is fast as heck. BUT what I'm saying is that perception is everything. To 90% of the population the AMG Benz and entry level Caddy are millions of miles apart. It's just life in LA LA land

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