For me, it's all about principle with these stealers. That's just the Chinese side of me talking. Then again, the Jewish side doesn't help the matter much either.

On a different note, were you able to listen to the Logic7 system in your car? How does it compare to the premium sound in the X5?

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Because the original seal is being broken, then resealed. When you do that, you never get as good a seal as the original. It'll make contact with the glass over 95% of the area that the original factory job did, 95% as good as the original seal in other words.

I agree with Drex that there's a standard here that dealership is not living up to, but personally, I'd take the cash (none of that discount stuff, write me a damn check!) and live with it.

Pete, can they buff it out as opposed to replacing the windshield??

JV

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I second that

I'd wait... drex is right: There are/were some QA problems with this car. And, again, as drex mentioned, this is NOT a cheap car. Heck, even if it were, you have every right to expect a fooking perfect car! If it were a small dent, or something like that, it'd be different... but windshields... man, those are notoriously a pain in the ass to seal properly...

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

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I beg to differ JV, the seal on the original windshield on my E46 M3 was actually pretty bad. The replacement windshield after I cracked it was so much better. It's really not that difficult of a task. I was there when they replaced the windshield and the guys at my dealership did an awesome job.

I am quoting directly from the mouth of an auto glass repairer/installer with 25 years experience who fixed a chip in my windshield and replaced the windshield in a previous car I owned. Both vehicles were less than 4 years old when he did the work, maybe he was referring to newer models, but he explained it to me exactly that way.

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JV, they thought about buffing out the scratch (the deeper one), but as the sales manager explained to me, it would create a dip in the area where the glass is buffed and it would cause undesirabe visual distortions. Plus, there are many smaller scratches across the windshield so I don't think I'd happy living day in day out without it being replaced.

I listened to it once when they let me borrow their 650i demo for a weekend. It was really good, much better than the DSP in our X5's. However, since the audio system in our BMW's are tuned to generate more bass than treble, I had to turn down the bass and turned up the treble to get some decent tones. I especially like the Theater mode in the Logic7 where the vocal is directed toward the front channel speaker.

That's cool. I remember reading a lot about it when I had the chip in my windshield and a year before when my Maxima had the huge crack in the glass. Seems that if the vendor is a glass repair tech, they'll recommend not breaking the seal, if they don't do repairs and only do replacements, they'll say it's cool to break the factory seal. 6 in one hand...the 650 will be warrantied, so you'll be fine.

Coming back up to DC for the Holidays?

JV

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