Why do Americans support this man?

[FSETH]

Originally Posted by 4point4eye

You could persuade voters to not vote for Obama by addressing his plans and policies instead of his character. Obama has not attacked McCain's character - he has, however, attacked McCain's plans and policies.

The laundry list above is to scare you. It's time that we voters rise above politics as usual. Acorn may have registered fictitious persons to vote, but google "YPM" - and you will see that the RNC was involved with disenfranchising real voters. Has Obama brought this up??? Nope, it's a distraction to real issues of concern.

You can look at how the two campaigns are run to get a sense of how each will run the country.

I have done that in a few other threads. I don't agree with pretty much all of Obama's plans or policies. The only exception may be his health care plan, but then again he has promised so much who knows what he will actually get around to doing.

This thread was more personal in nature and about the man in general. I do not agree with his policies and question his patriotism if he wont do simple things like put his hard over his heart for the National Anthem. Isn't it also fair to ask why he would remove ALL American flags from his 757 or why he doesn't know how many states there are? I mean, he is supposed to be so smart, right. Can't be that hard. Simple as that. It is fair to question those things, right?

[Krimson X]

Originally Posted by FSETH

Also, according to multiple sites, Obama did remove all flags from his plane and replace them with his personalized logo's. Check out the before and after photos here;

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/airplane.asp

Obama did not remove all flags from the plane. He did however remove several stylized flags that were the property and registered trademark of North American Airlines. Your own link explains that.

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by FSETH

I have done that in a few other threads. I don't agree with pretty much all of Obama's plans or policies. The only exception may be his health care plan, but then again he has promised so much who knows what he will actually get around to doing.

This thread was more personal in nature and about the man in general. I do not agree with his policies and question his patriotism if he wont do simple things like put his hard over his heart for the National Anthem. Isn't it also fair to ask why he would remove ALL American flags from his 757 or why he doesn't know how many states there are? I mean, he is supposed to be so smart, right. Can't be that hard. Simple as that. It is fair to question those things, right?

When you disagree with someone, you can pull nearly anything as an argument against them. Not that this is bad, just a fact.

[FSETH]

Originally Posted by Krimson X

Obama did not remove all flags from the plane. He did however remove several stylized flags that were the property and registered trademark of North American Airlines. Your own link explains that.

We are splitting hairs here. He removed a flag from both sides of the tail and one on each side near the front of the plane to make room for his logos. Look at the before and after photos. That would be 4 that were on the 757 before and zero now. Whatever, though. Even if you want to call it one, couple that with 57 states and 1 to go as well as not knowing hot to respond when the National Anthem is being played and it seems fair to question these acts.

[Krimson X]

Originally Posted by FSETH

We are splitting hairs here. He removed a flag from both sides of the tail and one on each side near the from of the plane to make room for his logos. Look a tthe befor enad after photos. That would be 4 that were on the 757 before and zero now. Whatever, though. Even if you want to call it one, couple that with 57 states and 1 to go as well as not knowing hot to respond when the National Anthem is being played and it seems fair to question these acts.

Oh, Now we are splitting hairs? You brought it up! He removed four flag logos that were the property of North American Airlines. He bought the plane, not the rights to the logo. Is this your attempt to show that Obama is un-patriotic?

BTW, where are John McCain's flags on his plane? Is he not patriotic?

[FSETH]

Originally Posted by Krimson X

Oh, Now we are splitting hairs? He removed four flag logos that were the property of North American Airlines. He bought the plane, not the rights to the logo.

BTW, where are John McCain's flags on his plane?

OK, 2 flags total, right? Still multiple flags, right. Krimson, do you honeslty think that it isn't a little strange that he doesn't know how many states there are, won't cover his heart for the anthem and removed TWO flags from the tail of his plane? That doesn't seem odd to you at all? Seriously?

John McCain hates America so he refused to put flags on his plane.
Are you serious? I am pretty sure John McCain served his country the best anyone ever could. His loyalties are not the ones in question.

Also, I really like how this flag on the plane issue is the one topic you have focuesed on where there is so much more on the board.

[Krimson X]

Originally Posted by FSETH

OK, 2 flags total, right? Still multiple flags, right. Krimson, do you honeslty think that it isn't a little strange that he doesn't know how many states there are, won't cover his heart for the anthem and removed TWO flags from the tail of his plane? That doesn't seem odd to you at all? Seriously?

John McCain hates America so he refused to put flags on his plane.
Are you serious? I am pretty sure John McCain served his country the best anyone ever could. His loyalties are not the ones in question.

Since Snopes is your fact checking source of choice:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp

[Krimson X]

Originally Posted by FSETH

Also, I really like how this flag on the plane issue is the one topic you have focuesed on where there is so much more on the board.

Are you serious? I am all over the political fourm and the general lounge. That was just the one glaring fallicy in your post that I though I would address first.

[FSETH]

Originally Posted by Krimson X

Since Snopes is your fact checking source of choice:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp

OK, what does that prove? Sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. So what? Everyone else was and I didn't read anything that said any of those people didn't know how many states there were and so on.

[FSETH]

Originally Posted by Krimson X

Are you serious? I am all over the political fourm and the general lounge. That was just the one glaring fallicy in your post that I though I would address first.

My bad. I originally said 3 or 4, but it was two. I am sooooo incorrect. That is laughable.

What about the more serious items on the list such as his long-time racist reverend buddy, the statements by Bidden, Michelle Obama's statements, his lack or experience, his involvement with Acorn, the lies about his relationship with Ayers and so on? Those are very significant items.

I suppoes you can find a website that says he never actually knew Reverend Wright, huh?