Gay marriage banned in Cali..

[Wagner]

that was surprising.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11...es-nationwide/

[FSETH]

Yeah, that is surprising.

[GmX5]

Not too surprised, there were a lot of vote yes on prop 8 supporters here in calif. Maybe this time the supreme court wont over rule it...but we will see.

[ylwjacket]

Passed in Florida also. Constitutional amendments in FL now require a 60% majority to pass, and it was close. The 60% is in reaction to some really crazy ones passing in years past.

[blondboinsd]

I was very upset about this as I worked very hard on it. I do find much comfort in the million of people who voted for our rights. That is really special to me.

Again, we had lots of mis-informed voters and people who flat out feel a threat from gay people, for those I feel sorry, thats a pathetic way to live, it really is.

I had tons of support and many many people fought for me so that again, means a lot.

Most insulting to me were the ratio of African American's that voted for 8. Must of slept through history class. 70%? So those who always screamed "equal rights" are judging now? Simply disgusting.

[Quicksilver]

The local news had an interesting perspective regarding this issue.

Part of the reason for this is the gay movement's continuous reference to the civil rights movement to support their cause. Most African Americans find this analogy insulting. Secondly the shove it down your throat "weather you like it or not" position was another problem for a lot of people. Last it may have also had to do with the false television ads run by both sides.

All of these reasons turned people got off and mobilized the opposition to take a stand.

Originally Posted by blondboinsd

Most insulting to me were the ratio of African American's that voted for 8. Must of slept through history class. 70%? So those who always screamed "equal rights" are judging now? Simply disgusting.

[blondboinsd]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

The local news had an interesting perspective regarding this issue.

Part of the reason for this is the gay movement's continuous reference to the civil rights movement to support their cause. Most African Americans find this analogy insulting. Secondly the shove it down your throat "weather you like it or not" position was another problem for a lot of people. Last it may have also had to do with the false television ads run by both sides.

All of these reasons turned people got off and mobilized the opposition to take a stand.

Funny, I find them close. The Whether you like it or not from Newsom wasn't his finish hour and the "Yes on 8" campaign" took it and used it.

I find both causes to be much closer than you think. True they are different in specific ways. But their overall oppressive 2nd class treatment is exactly the same.

Sure we could keep our mouths shut on the bus but did you ever have to come out black?


It's every person duty to become educated on the issues and anyone who voted against it who had to fight for their equality has ZERO sympathy from me. I think their ignorant and obviously lack an education on their past.

[FSETH]

Originally Posted by blondboinsd

It's every person duty to become educated on the issues and anyone who voted against it who had to fight for their equality has ZERO sympathy from me. I think their ignorant and obviously lack an education on their past.

I have to agree with you on this one. Everyone is so happy on how far this country has come because we elected a black president, but we are still not treating gays and lesbians equally.

IMO that is just wrong.

Maybe people in general are only concerned about equal rights when it affects them personally.

I am sure others will disagree, but I don't think being gay is a choice that a person makes for themselves. Just like you can't choose what color skin you are born with. Therefore, anyone who supports equal rights for any reason should be outraged with this decision.

[trueX5er]

Originally Posted by FSETH

I have to agree with you on this one. Everyone is so happy on how far this country has come because we elected a black president, but we are still not treating gays and lesbians equally.

IMO that is just wrong.

Maybe people in general are only concerned about equal rights when it affects them personally.

I am sure others will disagree, but I don't think being gay is a choice that a person makes for themselves. Just like you can't choose what color skin you are born with. Therefore, anyone who supports equal rights for any reason should be outraged with this decision.

100%. It is wrong.

[Michelle]

Originally Posted by FSETH

I have to agree with you on this one. Everyone is so happy on how far this country has come because we elected a black president, but we are still not treating gays and lesbians equally.

IMO that is just wrong.

Maybe people in general are only concerned about equal rights when it affects them personally.

I am sure others will disagree, but I don't think being gay is a choice that a person makes for themselves. Just like you can't choose what color skin you are born with. Therefore, anyone who supports equal rights for any reason should be outraged with this decision.

100%