What's your take on the shooting of Dr. George Tiller

[chile1]

Originally Posted by Dannyell

And this is what happens when 'brainwashed' act upon their beliefs...

Poor guy had been shot in both his arms...had his clinic bombed...then he was sued...now he is dead...

May he rest in peace...condolences to the family

Funny how most pro-lifers DO in fact support the death penalty, war and torture, not to mention fighting against programs that help the poor and middle class.
How? By voting down party line, i.e. Republican, instead of promoting TRUE pro-life candidates who respect ALL life, not just life from conception to birth. I could respect the movement so much more if they didn't vote Dem OR Republican.

How ironic that pro-lifers are the first to cry when someone mentions anything about gun control:

guns + life = makes no sense

[MrLabGuy]

Originally Posted by chile1

guns + life = makes no sense

Say that when an intruder enters your home in the middle of the night and the intruder is the only one with a weapon.

Then I guess you are right...If I have the gun I live...If he is the only one with a gun legal or not I'm dead.

I'd rather have that choice because the Government is not around at 3:30 in the morning in my bedroom nor do I want them there.

Off topic but needed to be addressed based on your comment.

[MrLabGuy]

Killing the doctor was wrong and the shooter should get life in prison for murder. That said I feel his practice was disgusting if the procedure was performed when it did not involve the life of the mother.

I'm a pro-choice Conservative but there is a point in the process even I get uncomfortable. Some think birth control pills are murder...I think the first few weeks of a pregnancy makes a potential child but have not developed enough to consider it murder.

That's just me...I understand there is a lot of personal emotions which come out in this debate.

[Dannyell]

It is still about the mother's choice and that is all it should be about...her body her decision...

If there are risks of complications..or a even death then obviously there are no other alternatives...

Was hearing some of the interviews...some anti-abortionist said that a lot of people could commit murder to stop babies from dying....red flags right there...

[chile1]

Originally Posted by MrLabGuy

Killing the doctor was wrong and the shooter should get life in prison for murder. That said I feel his practice was disgusting if the procedure was performed when it did not involve the life of the mother.

I'm a pro-choice Conservative but there is a point in the process even I get uncomfortable. Some think birth control pills are murder...I think the first few weeks of a pregnancy makes a potential child but have not developed enough to consider it murder.

That's just me...I understand there is a lot of personal emotions which come out in this debate.

From what I've read, this doctor was performing abortions as permitted under the current laws of the state. If PRO-Lifers want to treat abortion as murder, they need to change the law. A legal abortion is not murder, and calling it murder (by party pundits, i.e. O'Reilly) only encourages acts like the horrific murder of this doctor.

I can't understand why this outspoken group is also against the widespread distribution of birth control. It seems counter-productive doesn't it? If there was less demand for abortions, then there would be less abortions.

[Dannyell]

Originally Posted by chile1

From what I've read, this doctor was performing abortions as permitted under the current laws of the state. If PRO-Lifers want to treat abortion as murder, they need to change the law. A legal abortion is not murder, and calling it murder (by party pundits, i.e. O'Reilly) only encourages acts like the horrific murder of this doctor.

I can't understand why this outspoken group is also against the widespread distribution of birth control. It seems counter-productive doesn't it? If there was less demand for abortions, then there would be less abortions.

Uneducated people

[realchef]

Questionable practice to some, but murder?? Insane action. Dispicable. (I am pro-Choice)

Murder is not an answer. Illustrates how people are easily caught in their own beliefs, losing a grip on the reality.

[MrLabGuy]

Originally Posted by Dannyell

It is still about the mother's choice and that is all it should be about...her body her decision...

Please. Thats CRAP. If the baby can sustain itself outside of the womans body it no longer becomes her choice in my book. Unless there are some health concerns or complications which risk the mothers life. Your contention that it is her body and therefore her decision is callous, crude and outright disgusting in my opinion. Remember I'm pro-choice. That's almost like saying a mother can drowned her newborn baby in the bathtub because she can no longer take being a mother because it came from her body.

[MrLabGuy]

Originally Posted by chile1

I can't understand why this outspoken group is also against the widespread distribution of birth control. It seems counter-productive doesn't it? If there was less demand for abortions, then there would be less abortions.

Because this group is on the FAR FRINGE of the conservative ideology. Truth be told you are on the far side of the other end...Too Far Left in my opinion.

[Wagner]

Her choice at the 21st week huh, hmm.
Seems the OT has gone off course, or maybe not...

Is the murder of the doctor justified, no. Is abortion a sensitive and detailed topic, yes. How do I feel about abortion in the 21st week (late term) should be illegal..is it....no. Is a baby in the 21st week a human in my book, yes. But what do I know, I'm just a dad.




Looks pretty much like a human to me.

Imagery of 2 weeks after that...