What's the matter with Donald Trump.

[Maruzo]

Originally Posted by EODguy

True, but honestly do you ever see that happening since some folks already say having an ID is a burden on the poor and minorities? If people won't accept an ID that must also be used to open a bank account, cash a check, buy alcohol, drive a car, rent a place or board a plane...
I don't think they'll go for some coat of arms/family crest that has such a narrow use.

But I do agree we need something to reduce voter fraud. Maybe something like Mexico uses?

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That works if the voting is in person.

We need an additional form of verification on our voting documents to avoid tempering.

[EODguy]

Originally Posted by Maruzo

That works if the voting is in person.



We need an additional form of verification on our voting documents to avoid tempering.

I know that but say for example a seal is used. Unless the Government has a registered copy of it then any seal on the paperwork would pass inspection and not to mention that a seal would probably be a "family" stamp/seal so a husband, wife, sons and unmarried daughters would have the same one meaning multiple papers with the same stamp until the kids start their own families.
I'm not sure how to get around the possible problems listed above, but it's a thought

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[Maruzo]

Originally Posted by EODguy

I know that but say for example a seal is used. Unless the Government has a registered copy of it then any seal on the paperwork would pass inspection and not to mention that a seal would probably be a "family" stamp/seal so a husband, wife, sons and unmarried daughters would have the same one meaning multiple papers with the same stamp until the kids start their own families.
I'm not sure how to get around the possible problems listed above, but it's a thought

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Think of it in terms of individual seal instead of a family emblem or seal.

The way it works in these country is everybody select a specific font for their name and have it carved into a rectangular piece of stone or some type of hard plastic. The groves on the imprint soaks up the red ink and you leave your specific imprint on important document, along with your signature.

This seal is usually used in your banking accounts, or any census, property related documents stored in your local township household registration office.

So the government would have an exact copy of your seal on file to match it against.

Seals are usually only effective when you've turned adulthood and can register to vote. So kids would not need a seal of their own since they can't vote anyway.

I'm sure a signature along with an unique seal can be stored in government data base and retrieved at the necessary time to verify identify for a number of public functions.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Maruzo

If the mail in ballot proves to be a failure, we’re going to have a messy election with an uncertain result that will likely get contested.

We may not have a president 6 months after the election is over.

If there is a problem and Trump is behind, he will drag it out as long as possible. He has no plans to leave the white house regardless of the results.

[crystalworks]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

If there is a problem and Trump is behind, he will drag it out as long as possible. He has no plans to leave the white house regardless of the results.

Even if that's true, doesn't that mean Pelosi becomes interim POTUS in January if no election result is reached?

[EODguy]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

Even if that's true, doesn't that mean Pelosi becomes interim POTUS in January if no election result is reached?

No.

US Constitution, Article 2 Section 1, 2 and 4

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[crystalworks]

Originally Posted by EODguy

No.

US Constitution, Article 2 Section 1, 2 and 4

After reading those sections, it seems the 12th Amendment might cover this situation? The House would choose from the candidates, by vote, of the 3 highest vote tally recipients from the election? It's difficult to follow because it's all written in legalese, but that's what my probably inadequate brain gathered from it.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

After reading those sections, it seems the 12th Amendment might cover this situation? The House would choose from the candidates, by vote, of the 3 highest vote tally recipients from the election? It's difficult to follow because it's all written in legalese, but that's what my probably inadequate brain gathered from it.

:That's my take also and it is the newly elected and current house members that vote.

[EODguy]

It's expected that Congress would vote on either of the candidates not just vote on whomever, but to be fair the fact that we're talking about politicians means they could "interpret" Article II in some BS way and say "We choose Snuffy Smith" and ignore all or any nominees.

As for the VP the Senate chooses

If that happens it would certainly go before the Supreme Court unless the People execute them for being a domestic enemy of the Constitution.

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[Maruzo]

If the Supreme Court gets involved, the status of Ginsburg could very well be a deciding factor.