I have EONON, and it has so much error.
I have D5166 which is a newest model.

Don't recommend it.

Lots of thing doesn't work and freeze.

Oh really? Thanks for the warning!

One thing I noticed today is that my OBC screen shows the engine temperature and the ambient temperature, but the engine temperature is stuck at 32 degrees. The ambient reads ok though. Anybody else have a similar problem?

RB, I have a SiriusXM standalone player (select channels from it) in my X5 and connected it to factory MID using the 3.5mm headphone plug and I have the device set so it powers on/off when vehicle is running/off. And yes it maintains the same setting when it turns back on with vehicle.
I ran the power plug to the passenger footwell power plug-in (a lot of ppl do not know about this power plug in still).

Looks like the only button that you touch in the video does work. I can't tell if the screen is frozen. Yeah the timer isn't working but hell, the timer doesn't always work in my friends Q7 either. Did you try pressing any other buttons?

It is not only time but other buttons as well.
Actual button on side, works. They work but screen doesn't work.

It is like very poor system and sometimes, it goes black.
If you look volume bar bottom of screen, it doesn't work either.

Navigation freeze sometimes and very poor quality as well.
I use my cellphone navigation.

And also, bluetooth,.....very bad quality. I can hear but other side complain me that they can't hear very well. So I don't use it either.

I just want to share this info so don't want to have other people suffer as me. =)

Can you specify the model code on the eonon? When you say the Bluetooth is bad, do you mean during phone calls?

BMW X5 4.8iS 2005

Can you specify the model code on the eonon? When you say the Bluetooth is bad, do you mean during phone calls?

BMW X5 4.8iS 2005

I have the GA5166X and it works without any issues.

As for the Bluetooth issue, it's not really the Bluetooth that's the problem but the built in microphone that is weak. I got an extra microphone in my package that I connected and all is well.

The GPS works perfekt through SD card and phone. No issues with frozen screen or blackout.

I spoke to eonon a while back about updates and they said they would update the system if there are issues with my player (issues like the ones you have). You should contact them and request the update?

BMW X5 4.8iS 2005

Yes, I updated and you don't want to see whole emails that I sent with pictures and they sent to me.
Update the soft, doesn't work either.
I think the system itself is poor quality. It looks nice but very poor. Don't you agree with little details? like are you happy with GPS? really?

CHECK THIS NEW VIDEO

https://youtu.be/4UM3tEDeQL0

Aren't the D1566 and GA5166 running different operating systems? I thought the GA is android based and more expensive than the D5166 running Windows. That probably explains it right there.

I was just thinking the same. Mine is android with quad core processor and Very different from above video. Didn't realise the Dxxxx runs win....my mistake.

BMW X5 4.8iS 2005

My mistake, I have a different system.

BMW X5 4.8iS 2005

So.. How is the thoughts from those Running the N6 still?
Would you still recommend?

Yes, definitely a great upgrade over factory head unit without modifications. Looks very OEM and it's of good quality. The fact that it works with DSP makes it stand out from the rest of the competition. I also like the fact that it has USA support from the official distributor Jeff who is most excellent in customer support. Dynavin also gives regular software updates which tells you they're actively responding and addressing any issues or requests from customers.

By the way, lets keep this thread about Dynavin and not Eonon as others have started.

^:iagree:

Heres a Q - would the Dynavin keep the OBC functionality if you relocated the OBC to the glovebox optionally like many have done with the Avin units? I'm ok with splicing a few wires and moving the OBC to the Glovebox if I can keep the OBC functionality

Maybe Jeff can answer that better

I did a quick install on my Dynavin N6 last weekend (Fakra harness is on the floor and over the back seat until I get my passenger door lock actuator replaced as I can't get the door open to route the harness). I must say that even using the factory DSP amp and speakers, the sound quality is markedly improved. There's a couple of bugs that Dynavin is working on according to Jeff (Bluetooth phone call audio has some distortion, OBC engine temperature isn't working correctly), but I'm very pleased overall.

Ok, so after installing dynos 1.2.1 the unit now boots to nav all the time as long as I turn off the ignition while on nav. This is exactly what I wanted and now I'm a happy camper.

In case anyone's interested, I've successfully connected the factory NAV GPS antenna to the Dynavin N6 and it works beautifully. Signal level is stronger than placing the Dynavin GPS antenna behind the radio in the dash where I had it temporarily.

I used a 20' SiriusXM extension cable and a Fakra adapter to make it work. I'm sure most people wouldn't bother as it adds cost (about $31), and running yet another cable to the rear of the vehicle, but I'm particular and wanted a more OEM approach.

^David that is pretty awesome!

If you have the MID unit you can relocate it to the rear as I did with mine after fitting a Android Eonon unit over 12 months ago. I had no Nav or DSP in the rear, so space was there and frame width accommodates the MID with no modification. That means you can keep your gloves in the glove box. ;)

Great idea! Did you just tie into power and ibus in the rear, or did you have to extend some wiring from the front back to the rear?

Hi David, I popped the pins out of the original connector, insulated them and left them behind the ashtray, after noting the colours and position on the connector. Using the now free connector I searched a couple of looms for the corresponding coloured wires at the rear and popped the pins out of the connectors they were on. I then re-insterted the wires/pins into the matching positions I previously noted. From memory there was only 4 or 5 wires in total. MID fired up and I can do all the original functions. The dimensions of it and the frame are perfect that it just presses and holds into position.

That's awesome. I've actually wondered if that were possible, and you answered my question! Mine had factory NAV, so there's no way I'm going to leave the bordmonitor in the vehicle just to reset the clock, but having the harness available in the rear hatch means that I can pop the cover off, plug in the bordmonitor, set the clock and unplug it. Thank you!

This may not be relevant to your situation, but this was the connector I relocated and the wire colours.

I wonder if there's a diagnostic software that can manipulate the OBC functionalities such as resetting mpg, setting time etc.:dunno:

Neil that might have been the most helpful thing ever for me as I was looking to make the Dynavin a clean install, and keep OBC functions but not necessarily lose the glovebox - the way you describe it its very reversible, and actually easier than extending the wires from behind the factory MID over to the glovebox - nice work!

Agreed!!! Might do something like this with an Avin install. :thumbup:

Thanks Neil!

Hey Crystalworks, on the subject of installs, what bolt size is the battery ring terminal that you used here? I'm ordering parts and can't get to it to measure.

Please don't tap in there!

Used the one with 100 amp fuse and just unscrew the nut.

My intention is to connect to the terminal indicated, which is the same terminal as the battery cable (before, not after any fuses) using a separate fuse dedicated to the stereo amplifiers. I need to know what size the stud is though, so I can order the correct terminal.

Anyone?

Sorry David... I'm out of town. Though i have the x I won't pull the floor to check. From memory though it was fairly stout. Maybe 3/8... 5/16 I think would be too small. Hope that is accurate... Lol my memory isn't what it used to be.;)

Out of curiosity... Why not tap in there? I believe that it's Just the battery cable positive as David said... It's fused, and of course the amp 8awg is fused as well.

No reason....but just good electrical housekeeping.

If you decided to tap in there....make sure cable and fuse is rated to handle the alternator peak current....depending on SAV model a minimum of 120 - 170 amperes.

Frying a stereo amp is not an issue.....it's when cables starts melting.

Again, if it was me....I'll tap on readily available fused connector.:thumbup:

Not trying to be critical here, but the purpose of a fuse is to be the weakest link, thereby preventing damage to other components in the system. In this case, we're trying to prevent damage to the vehicle's electrical system (wiring, alternator, battery). If one were to install a fuse that is rated to handle the full peak current of the vehicle's alternator, and let's say for instance you accidentally short the battery cable to the vehicle's chassis while hooking up the amplifiers that you just installed. That 120-170 amp fuse that you installed is not necessarily the weakest link in the system and won't blow before something else burns up because it is rated to handle the full peak current of the vehicle's alternator. It is very likely that your alternator would burn up, and quite possible that you'd have damage to the vehicle's wiring and battery as well.

The idea here is to make the fuse the weakest link in the system, not as strong as the rest of the system. You want it to blow BEFORE anything else does so as to prevent your wiring, alternator, or battery from overheating and becoming damaged, or worse, causing a fire.

That's quite alright! Thanks for the info. I'll go with 3/8".

My memory has never been great, and it's getting worse as I get older!:yikes:

Did you re-route the cables? I've found that the easiest thing is to simply pull out the AC unit and grab the cables from there to plug in the factory nav temporarily.

I haven't re-routed the cables, but I like that idea! I'll definitely do that.

I pulled the battery cable off this past weekend while removing much of the interior so I could run all the cables (Fakra, radio antenna, GPS antenna, line level audio, etc.). When I tried connecting the factory NAV screen to reset the time, the screen would not come up. The light next to the volume/power knob would light, but nothing on the screen, so I've got to figure out what's going on there. Does anyone know if it's necessary to have anything else connected in order to get the NAV screen up? I've removed everything (radio module, CD changer, NAV disc drive, Bluetooth module) in the rear of the vehicle except for the DSP amplifier.

Hi David,

Could you elaborate on the location of the factory GPS connector (a picture would be great) and the part numbers for the Sirius extension and Fakra adapter?

Thanks,

Mike

I don't have any pics handy (I'm at work), but the factory connector is plugged into the back of the factory DVD NAV drive in the left rear compartment. It's a small black coax cable. I used a Fakra coax adapter cable plugged into the back of the Dynavin and that connects to a Sirius extension cable that runs to the back of the vehicle and plugs into the factory GPS antenna cable that used to connect to the factory DVD NAV drive. Bought both the adapter and extension cable on Amazon.

Adapter - Amazon.com : SiriusXM Radio FAKRA Antenna Adapter Connector to SMB : Other Products : Everything Else

Cable - http://www.amazon.com/Sirius-Radio-A...ilpage_o02_s00

I did have to swap the adapter Fakra housing with the Fakra housing from the radio extension cable that I purchased with my Dynavin N6. The Fakra coax connectors are keyed depending upon what they are used for (radio, GPS, etc.). As it happens, the Dynavin radio antenna extension cable that comes with the Fakra extension purchased from Jeff has a "universal" Fakra end on it, and the adapter purchased from Amazon is a "radio" end, so swapping the two Fakra housings allowed everything to fit. Let me know if you need additional help and I can take some pics and elaborate further.

Thanks David. That gets me a better understanding.

The fakra "dance" is a little confusing but can probably be resolved with pics when you get a chance.

Yeah, the GPS antenna location makes sense behind the DVD drive (DUH)....LOL

Any pics welcome if/when you get a chance.

Thanks again.

Mike

Not much of anything with this system makes sense, but it's the NAV unit DVD drive where the GPS antenna is located. So it makes as much sense as anything in this system.

Having trouble with DIS and INSTA-P when attempting to edit vehicle CKM (car Key Memory) settings- error reading Radio module. Short of reconnecting the radio, anyone know of an easier way? May be changing vehicle order? Not sure how to do that.

In regards to the GPS mount placement. Have there been any updates since the release of this unit to where I'll get a signal if I place it behind the dash unit on the metal bracket? Or any coding?


2002 BMW X5 E53 3.0i

200,xxx miles and counting

"If you ain't first, you're last"

It all starts AFTER you paid the X off.......

Nothing is ever easy with a BMW.....but extremely worth it when it's done.....correctly

I had mine temporarily stuck to the top of the metal bar behind the head unit and it worked fine. I ended up running a GPS antenna extension cable from the head unit to the factory NAV DVD drive location in the rear and connecting to the factory antenna. GPS signal level reads stronger on my Dynavin N6 now.

+1 the N6 antenna had poor reception anywhere unless it's on a 100% flat metal surface. Reusing the OEM is a perfect move, no need to worry about surfaces!

I haven't had the time yet, but I need to pull the head unit back out and take some pics of the GPS antenna adapter as I promised. The factory GPS antenna works perfectly, and if you're running the Fakra cables to the back, you might as well run the GPS extension antenna cable as well and use it.

Installation is 99% done. Only issue is putting the unit all the way in. It doesn't go all the way back.

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That's how the bracket is sitting

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Back when I had to use a dremel and drill bit to cut the plastic off

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The cuts I made were flush with the middle corners like the instructions said. So I'm not sure why the bracket isn't going all the way in. Any ideas?


2002 BMW X5 E53 3.0i

200,xxx miles and counting

"If you ain't first, you're last"

It all starts AFTER you paid the X off.......

Nothing is ever easy with a BMW.....but extremely worth it when it's done.....correctly

Does anyone know if Dynavin sells the mounting bracket seperately? I'd like to buy one if possible. I installed the Eonon D5166X and they don't include this style of mounting.

Yes, Jeff does - bought one from him when I broke mine.

What is his screen name? Was it reasonable on price?

In case you didn't get it to power on yet....its the white connector that turns on the display. Make sure it is pushed in properly before locking it into place. That did the trick for me.

BMW X5 4.8iS 2005

Thanks for the info! I found out that the Nav DVD drive also needs to be connected as it provides the video for the display. I've got it down to a science now. I just plug in the DVD drive and the Nav screen, adjust my settings, then unplug everything.

That's useful info for me, I didn't know that! Haha

I'm in the process of relocating the screen to the back...this means I need to keep the Nav drive if I want everything to work. Now I need to correct my thread :/

BMW X5 4.8iS 2005

Anyone have the lastest firmware? 1.2.1? The Dynavin site's link is dead and Jeff is out of town till the 10th.

My unit is acting screwy. Just fades to white background and nothing else. Want to rest it and reload firmware.

Thanks!

damn i just got jealous this would make me enjoy the x5 even more. i've always been more of an electronics person when it came to cars.

how much did it cost you?

Is Dynavin a one man show, Jeff or nothing?

sorry for the delay, Im not a sponsor here....just a regular member, so I don't follow this thread that close and try not to get too involved here, don't want to get banned!

Dynavin has dealers in multiple countries, Im just the guy you see on the forums as I happen to be a BMW guy....

I don't think you'll get banned from customer support on the forum - but if you are trying to sell product and start threads promoting Dynavin then yeah I could see that you might need to be a sponsor or vendor -

But since you know the ins and outs of the product I don't see why you couldn't offer customer support from a BMW-head point of view

have they made a dynavin model yet that has the backup camera with the guides that move when you turn the steering wheel to help you judge where you are backing up to. The other half needs that badly. Also is there one that supports carplay or android mirroring as I have been in multiple new cars with that feature it's really nice. Ebay has a guy sellng a wireless solution that just doesn't take advantage of any controls as it just wireless video.

It's a function of the vehicle. The E53 X5 steering angle sensor module does not connect to the vehicles Controller Area Network (CAN) bus and thus the backup camera parking guides are static. I also have Dynavin installed in my E92 and the guides move.

Bonus month next month and would like to buy a new headunit, the N6 has been out for a while, do we know if there is a newer model in the pipeline?

Not sure an upgrade will mean anything other than software tweaking here and there.
The hardware is as good as it gets (with the exception of the physical buttons that could be firmer like the oem) but other than that, everything flows really nice with the other dash pieces and buttons. Looks like it's meant to be there...

Mine still performs as it should. No complaints..

iLink
 

Dynavin N6 units can be fitted with an accessory to allow for Apple Car Play.

In my opinion, which is just that, it's a waste of money.
The interface other than main screen is garbage at this point in time, until they decide to upgrade it.
Navigation is better on the N6, (Maps via CarPlay leave a lot to be desired), so you pretty much get your apps on the screen for an extra 300$. Hmm....and you have to have the phone plugged in all the time for it to work.

Tell you what...my iPhone 7plus fits snug horizontally on the N6 screen. I've got apple car play for free...

Thanks for the update four8, I'm still considering the Dynavin for myself -

I'd like to retain the OBC so I may relocate it with a Dynavin install to get best of both worlds - wouldn't have to retain CD player for DSP functionality too -

The only thing is the booting up with the door open does bother me (cleaning the car etc), but I may be able to get over it -

RB, it does boot up but you can turn it off manually just like you'd do with the regular radio or nav. Not sure if Im missing something..

I asked distributor a few weeks ago. Got the appropriate answer which was--sometime in the future. No indication of a timeline whatsoever.

Good to know - now if I could relocate the MID too to keep the full OBC functionality I would probably pull the trigger as the price has come down some lately -

I'm going to see if I can run the Factory NAV harness consisting of two plugs, down to the console panel next to the accelerator pedal to enable once in a while OBC reset functionality.

Will see how far I can get with it :dunno: :dunno:

Mike

I have nearly decided to go with one of the new Octa-core 6.0 Android units. The OBC is one thing that has held me back to this point. But, I pulled out an old OBDII Bluetooth adapter and hooked it up to the Tourque application. I did this as a preview to see what I could have without an OBC. I like it.

Still would like to find an old radio or a way to have the OBC in place as well- best of both worlds. I thought I'd seen a unit somewhere that had a hardness for extending the non-nav radio to the glovebox. Not sure where to find that.

Watching here as well.

Like you Prop, I'm anxious to see what I can display on the Eonon GA6166 from my ELM WiFi unit.

Currently running dash command on my iPhone but am open to a better solution to load onto the GA6166.

Mike

Prop - you have DSP like me so the options are limited unless you also want to relocate the CD player as well as the MID -

Its on the Avin Avant-2 PDF diy on Avin's website I believe - you run the CD player to the trunk and connect 2 or 3 wires directly from the amp to the CD player, and the OBC goes in the glovebox, you just chop the connector off and extend the wires and match them back up to the connector, and plug in the MID in the glovebox -

There was something on the Eonon thread about connecting the OBC/MID directly in the trunk, I have to find the post. That would be the most preferable to me, in case I went with an Avin unit that needed a CD player relocation (and I'd keep my glovebox for storage) - but I do like the Dynavin too and its good to see members who actually really like it a couple years later -

After the speaker brigade, and after I get my PDR and rust repaired on the inner rear lower door section, updating the factory entertainment system is going on the top of my last

I have DSP with aftermarket amp and sub. What do I lose when I install the Dynavin?

Is there an alternative brand that I don't lose anything I currently have?

^If you just remove your stock setup and nothing else, you will lose the MID/OBC functions -

There is not an alternative brand that retains 100% OBC functionality - which is why a lot of people end up relocating them -

But the Dynavin you will at least be plug and play with DSP

Sorry, no such thing.

Given that there're headunits that run on Android (lots of apps e.g. Torque shown above) and have WIFI integrated (you can download apps from the cloud), wouldn't the driver now have all the info that OBC provides plus a host more and advanced, therefore rendering loss of OBC functionality a moot point of worry? I mean, you would be getting the "lost" OBC functionality from elsewhere and with more details and nicer visuals and output, right?

After having installed an Eonon GA6166 w/Android hotspot wifi functionality and apps like Torque, etc. I do not miss the OBC functions. About the only usable one for me that I look at is range remaining.

It has become a forgotten part of 2003 factory technology. So, for me, no worries.

Different strokes..............:dunno:

Mike

I'm not worried about losing OBC functions, just comparing options and making sure I know what I'm buying. Is there a side by side comparison of Eonon and Dynavin out there?

I haven't seen a SxS list, but I know that one distinct advantage of Dynavin versus all other aftermarket headunits is the support for DSP. Other than that, I don't think it has any other compelling advantage over the Eonon - I have the eonon on my e39 and dynavin on my x5. As a matter of fact, given that the latest Eonon for the E53 runs on Android OS and has integrated WiFi and the current Dynavin runs on a proprietary OS, the Eonon stands a clear advantage in that you're not locked onto whatever apps the unit came with - the cloud is your limit. With the Dynavin you can't add any apps onto it- it's a closed system.

One important thing to consider as well is the local USA support that the Dynavin has via J&T the local US distributor. The support is 1st class I can attest to that. With Eonon, you tend to fight a lot to get help in case of issues. Returns can be a nightmare.

Just my .2 cents ...

Also, if price is a factor for the budget minded E53 owners, the Eonon is about $300 (including the long Fakra cable if you have factory NAV) and last I heard the Dynavin was about 2X that???? :dunno:

Someone more familiar with Dynavin might chime in with a pricing report.

Mike

Just installed N6 to replace standard business cd today...

Some differences to other installs.... I used an AEG multi tool to cut out the plastic. Took all of 30 seconds and cut exactly where needed.

Also the new mic I surface mounted on the centre overhead console as it is larger but kind of a mouse shape. I used a timber flooring plastic joint as a draw wire (it's a flat plastic 3mm thick by 10mm wide length of poly) and got the wires through no problems...

System booted up first time with no probs and the wife loves it (did her car first).

Thanks to JEFF at J and T for the prompt answers to a couple of minor queries.

Now to find the time to do mine.....

Cheers

Well, finally got round to doing mine with the fakra cable...

Turns out that in OZ we have the nav screen but not the nav unit and we need the cable (unique to Australia)..so had to wait for that to arrive then do the strip out yada yada...

Got it all done ok with many references back to here about seat removal etc..

Wasn't too bad UNTIL.... that stupid F##^ing bracket is the absolute worst design fail... I wasted 1.5hours wiggling, jiggling, adjusting the stu#id lame a$$ bracket, putting in the head unit and pulling it out repeatedly, angling like advised on the threads...

In the end, bent the tabs down and it still wouldn't seat properly... what utter utter cr@p....

tried everything possible to get it to seat, and then in an act of pure frustration, hit the brackets with a hammer in the centre and bent them inwards to see if that made it seat better (I have spares from the wifes install)....

... and now it fits no problem...

seriously... Jeff... did NOT need the frustration after a day of pulling apart the interior and putting it back together....

oh, and the "connect the green wire to the reverse light circuit" is a little light on the detail side.....

Thank heavens for the good folk here on this forum answering questions and posting pics....(although I gave up trying to work out which wire is the reverse light circuit)

RANT OVER ...lol

Cheers

Do these work with the factory amp/subwoofer?

I have completed my install of an Eonon GA6166 earlier this year in a Factory NAV E53 and am very happy with the performance and price. NO DSP in my vehicle.

A thread is currently ongoing trying to get a Seicane install to work with DSP :dunno:

https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...ll-thread.html

Mike

He bypasses the factory amp with that setup. That cannot sound as good as the factory setup, regardless of claims. With my DSP can I install an Android unit which utilizes my factory amp which is already wired to the speakers?

Yes, that's why the long wire from the back of the trunk to the dash is required as I understand it if you 'have nav'...

Otherwise with the Business CD it's just plug and play

My sound is great...

The only advantage to keeping the dsp amp working is not having to run wires for the aftermarket amps. Sound wise? ANY decent quality modern amp will sound 100 times better than the factory dsp amp. Daughters 528i has the same dsp the x5 has the sound isn't anything to write home about.

Actually my android radio without dsp in my x5 sounds better than the factory radio with dsp in the 528i.

Thats apples to oranges, to compare to the factory X5 audio, not one in another car. No headunit by itself is going to compare, my point. I want to plug the headunit into the factory amp and call it a day. :cool:

Ahh now that makes sense. The convenience of just plugging it in is a totally good reason for going a certain way.

But sound wise our bmw's factory sound equipment by todays standards is pretty ancient. Heck it wasn't that good sound quality wise when it came out compared to aftermarket amps of the time.

Still wanting to go plug and play is a good point no doubt.