Dynavin N6 install -Pics!
 

So as I promised, I installed my N6 today.Below are a few pictures of the install..sorry about the quality of the pictures..phone camera and bad lighting is what you see.


Ok onto the install...pretty straight forward...take out old radio, cut part of the plastic bracket with a dremel tool and install the metal brackets provided..

It came with a bunch of cables but I only installed the following:

-car harness to N6
-Radio antenna
-GPS antenna
-Mic.for bluetooth


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Very interesting. I have a couple questions for you

What is that screen with the 1er on it?

How is the UI?

Did you happen to take any pictures of the back of the unit?

And how does it work with the OBC?

no pics of the back..i can take a few tomorrow and post them..
the screen with the 1er is supposed to be the OBC and all the info there...on some cars like the E90 they show the coolant and oil temp..not on mine.

the responsiveness of the screen is very good..the menu is simple - i like it..

But i noticed even more problems...steering wheel controls dont work with the unit...bluetooth and eveything else works...phone calls , music

UPDATE: Everything works now after I installed the CAN interface box.Steering wheel controls as well as the OBC info like coolant temp and ambient temp show on the display.

Did the unit not come with steering wheel module? Or maybe N6 has it built in? I have previous version of Dynavin in my M3 and it came with external module for steering wheel control that connects to the wire harness behind the unit. Eonon in my X5 also came with external module for steering wheel control. Both works perfectly with all radio control buttons.

How is the navi screen?

So, are you serious? he told you it would work with the stock DSP amp and all you are getting is million mile echo... and that's after you have passed the point of no return by cutting up your dash?

wow... that says alot about customer service there!

You gotta be shitting me. Jeff literally emailed me to tell me it now works with DSP in North America, and Europe cars are fine with it.

Steering wheel controls don't work either?

Are you sure it doesn't need a firmware update?

Big Black chill out. He posted pretty much at midnight....I'm sure Jeff will help him out. Anyway, subscribed - I was also looking into this N6 solution, and I thought it would work with DSP. I actually asked Jeff about it a few days ago, because there is a difference in DSP's: pre and post '04.....(pretty much like the facelift change)
Looks like the pre '04 DSP's work with the N6, and that was my fear. Although Jeff thinks it shouldn't be the case. We shall see.

That would be the suxors if true. I have 9/2003 build so I'm right on the cusp.


And in all honesty to Bigblack, four.8is should have prob plugged it in before cutting up the dash to make sure it worked properly lol.

Ok guys I clearly might have done something wrong.Jeff said if it wouldn't have worked with DSP, the sound would turn off in 40 sec.
That's not the case with mine.
I indeed have not installed the steering wheel control module and that's because there was no plug to use it with.
I asked Jeff for a complete install video or PDF .At this point I'm sure I've done something wrong but I don't see where...I'll try to email him a few pictures and show him my install step by step.maybe we will figure it out .
I took off work just to make this thing work lol
Stay tuned , I'm positive we will make it work.

:thumbup: yes I thought of that as well, since its a digital sound the DSP amp shuts off completely, keep us posted

Haha RB you're right !
I went ahead and cut the dash like an idiot not thinking not even for a second that it wouldn't work:)
Well, I guess that's why I didn't even make such a big deal about it.

Glad to hear Jeff is standing by.
Hopefully you have it fixed, and working. As I said, I'm very interested in this unit, and I'm glad you're the guinea pig.....

Maybe you can find some inspiration regarding the connection here?

IT OFFICIALLY WORKS WITH DSP!!
Again, my fault!
I couldn't figure out where to plug in the can interface box
EVERYTHING WORKS NOW.
Thanks Jeff thanks Dynavin...
I'm really excited right now!

I'll fix my first post soon I'm on the phone right now

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::D:D:D

I'm cool as a cucumber over here... I really do hope he makes good with what was said ( or not said ) and I am eager to see how this pans out, as I like all of you would like to upgrade my DSP radio to something more modern.

Sorry to cause such an uproar :wow:

This is great news.... I'm very excited about this unit.
Hey, four.8is, I would like to know in all honesty, if there is any glaring in bright daylight. Can the unit be seen, or do you need to find a position to see what's on the screen? The older units, the luminosity & glaring of the screen was pretty bad. Need an honest opinion.

Thanks

Dorin, Jeff sells anti-glare screen protectors for the N6 for $10:


J&T Distributing - 7" Anti-Glare Touch Screen Protector - 3 Pack

Doru, in about 2 hrs I'll take more pictures in daylight and such and post them here.

DayVue antireflective film: Will increasing the screen brightness when outdoors will also help as well as working under shade to prevent direct sun on the screen.

Nushield glare eliminator and screen protector for Dynavin GPS NAVIGATION

:thumbup: In for some review.

Not good enough.
As an example: Old nav systems employed a setting where the crystal matrix of the screen was calibrated in such way, you could see it at a certain angle - BMW had that, and the e39 screen and e53 screen, were identical in size, but had a different crystal matrix setup. This would make the 2 screens NOT interchangeable, although they would fit and work perfectly. The angle of view would it make unreadable in these cars if they were interchanged.
The antiglaring film does just that - antiglare, but if the matrix crystals are not right, you see squat.

Newer technology makes it, so you can adjust that, pending on your driving position. Every car has a different driving position, and hence the image is better or worse in different car models, if one cannot adjust these settings. if the screen is positioned more vertical, the difference is not big. But, if like e53, has the mounting position very tilted, this can be a huge issue. This is why BMW issued 2 DIFFERENT matrix crystals oriented screens on these vehicles. Everything else was identical.

With the N6, I want to know if one can actually "see" something during a bright day, as per what Jeff posted here, and I quote him (only it's not clear, if this is a setting for night glare only):

"LIGHTING AND SCREEN ILLUMINATION

Dynavins have always had matching button lighting, not a big deal, but FYI, the buttons match the other buttons in the car and dim with the dash light dimmer. Nice and OEM.


Now this next thing may not sound like a big deal at first, but for day to day, real world use....its HUGE. The LCD dimmer can be configured in multiple ways and the dimming amount is fully adjustable. There is now an onboard ambient light sensor as well. SO you can set the unit up to dim when your headlights come on OR when the sensor sees its getting dark, or you can dim it manually. There are pros and cons to each approach and the overall ambient lighting where you are at and your headlight use habits will dictate which setup will work best for you. The adjustable LCD dimmer looks great as it does not just darken the screen as most "dimmers" do, it dims the backlight, so there is no "LCD glow" at night. Between the nicely dimmed screen and the clean white/red on black interface this is the best looking aftermarket unit at night i've ever seen"

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Also, four.8is, can you please let me know how the radio reception is? Does it sound solid, like the OEM radio, or does it fade away back-and-forth in certain areas, as you drive? reason is, the 1st generation had a single tuner, and reception was pretty bad. Apparently the newer units have the same technology BMW uses - dual tuners, which keep reception crisp.

Thanks

Wow that is a awesome looking headunit! It fits flush just like factory! How much do these units run for? Does the navigation and controls on steering wheel work with no issues? Would love to have something like this installed in my X5! Any info on pricing and where you purchased this would be great. :)

Doru, the radio reception seems at least as good as the OEM if not better.
I mean I was testing it in an underground parking lot and I was getting pretty good reception.
It uses the plug from the oe antenna - one less cable to install which is great
I'll do a more in-depth review of all the features once I get home.im not with the x right now and traffic at 9AM sucks

Thank you Sir. Once you have it running, test the radio while driving in different city environments (if you will) - around stop lights, underground parking, between high rises, etc, and see if you notice any fade in reception. The old units would fade as you drive under those circumstances - very annoying. They were OK in a stationary position, if interference wasn't an issue in that particular spot.

Group buy????

You can use "bimmer" code for $50 off the unit which brings it to $699, so far hearing good radio reception review and such is making me real excited, its literally the only thing my X5 is lacking compared to the 08 GLI I sold was the OEM interface for media and navigation, something about having those nice live maps in your face as opposed to looking down at your phone is so nice.

And all the Bluetooth goodies, etc is a great plus as well. Only thing I'd probably get is the USB extension so I can keep my iphone/ipod etc in the armrest

I do have a question... will this work with the stock nav antenna or do you have to run another wire to the back for the dynavin nav antenna?

For my setup, it comes with it's own gps antenna
I know you have to get the fakra cable if you have oe nav system and connect it to the trunk for the device to work but I'm guessing you'll still have to use the gps antenna provided.not sure though you might wanna shoot Jeff an email

Other than cutting the plastic frame is there any splicing or cutting into the factory harness? You mention about connecting the CAN module, is the connection located at the front of the car or at the back of the car? Can you still set the equalization for DSP?

I'm on my way home, will answer to more questions when I get to play a little with it.But I'll tell you now that there's no splicing or cutting necessary unless you have PDC and want it to show on the screen when you put it in reverse.
Jeff said some cars display the front PDC as well so I guess will have to try and see...
Now if you want a rear view camera they provide the plug for it you just buy the camera and run the wire to the back

As for the CAN box , the wire that connects to it is part of the big harness that connects the car to the N6 it just has it's own plug.Connect and drop it in the dash or secure it somewhere so it won't rattle..

Hopefully I was clear enough...I'll let you know about the equalizer

DAMN< SO you're telling me, if I buy this unit...
I get
BT and a mic for a hand free phone call,
DSP still operational with factory DSP equipment
NOTHING needs to be rewired (other than having PDC's display on monitor, which I'd do as I think its cool)
nothing needs to be re-routed (ie MID/OE Radio does not need to be connected and left in glove box or wired in rear somewhere to KEEP MID capabilities)
I get back-up camera IF I supply a camera with typical RCA connexctions
Navigation
USB connectivity
MicroSD card slot
and other things I'm forgetting?

the biggest for me is that I JUST need to buy a back-up cam and run the wires to this unit. No video device is required also?
thats sensational!!
I look forward to reviews yet.
PLEASE PLEASE keep them coming Four.8iS

Don't forget its a fully dvd player as well so you can play DVD's in it :)

And here is your backup camera (E53 specific), that is the only thing you need Mike, yes to all above however, map upgrades are free as well:

J&T Distributing - BMW backup camera for E46, E39, E53

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/029...G?v=1408642488

Are you planning on connecting the MID back? I put my MID in the glove box.

Hey, Mike, this thing looks really good, prolly as discussed at Vitek's.
Maybe we should both order & save on shipping? Not sure how that discount code will work, though (for 2 units)

Doru, I'm good with that idea, IF the product, after a week of vigorous testing by Four.8iS, proves this to work perfectly. :)

Group buy discount???

I'm wanting an N6 too!

Here's a video on the N6.

Skip to 13:15 in the time line to watch how to turn on the OE DSP Integration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BvsPcROsFE

Guys, the install is done took a bunch of pictures...after I was done though, when everything was working as good as it could work, the screen turned black, the unit was restarting itself and I was getting green and white lines all over the screen...now after an hour of trying to find out what it is I gave up..green and white lines it's all that's displayed at the moment...don't know what happened I emailed Jeff he adviced to reset ; that didn't help..
I even had a cd inside and now it won't eject it...I'll give it an hour see what it does after, but I'm pretty sure something happened to it, maybe the screen is gone.Im really mad as you can imagine..

UPDATE: The issue was resolved by a software update.Having the car ON/OFF at times during the install might have caused battery drainage as well as voltage spikes and thus corrupting the software.

So it was all installed and while you were just playing with it the screen went black? Thats no good. Have you tried it again yet?

a software update resolved the issue.everything is working!:cool:

Add me to the list. Im in Calgary too!

four8.is
Bummer on the hardware! Thank you for all of your info here. Looking forward to seeing once you are all setup. Likely going this route myself but am starting with Nav so slighty different. Once you get back on track here do you plan todo PDC connection?


Jeff
2005 4.8is

Pictures of the install:

Overall im very pleased with the sound...it looks really good compared to my old radio.

I retrofitted one of the USB's(media) in the cigarette lighter in the center console...gutted the internals and pushed it into the housing...its tight and snug and it also charges the iphone so thats a plus and it looks good too.


You can see in the last pics the split screen but as I previously mentioned, the software took care of it.display corrected itself after the update.

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yes im planning to hook up a rear view camera and PDC

Looks great! I would be all over it if it didn't required cutting of the OE bracket :mad:

Noo that is a poor excuse:)
if you cut it nice enough you can weld it back with JBweld if you'll ever need to.
If you have oem nav then theres no bracket to cut..

Thanks for the behind pics.

It looks nice there. That sucks about the bugs. That is great that Jeff is coming through with a new unit so quickly. Hopefully this is just a fluke and doesn't resemble the build quality.

Although Jeff had a new unit ready to ship, we got it sorted out so everything works as designed .:D

Hell if you can get this working flawlessly which Im sure you will be able to just a matter of time I would be all in for a group buy if we can get one together. That is a killer deck! I was wanting a Navi in the X5 and was looking at different decks but I think Ive found the deck that's to you! Pricing is a bit steep but as stated if we can get a decent/discounted group buy going on this I will be all over it. Four.8 see if you can get something together and maybe get a backup camera in return for free or something. Worth a shot!

Subbing for how you get on with this. I was leaning heavily towards the Avin Avant 2 but I do like the UI of this unit... so much simpler. Don't like the hardware specs as much but since it's not running the android OS it shouldn't cause any lagging issues...

Will keep my eye on this. Thanks for being the first (it appears) to pull the trigger on one of these units.

okay people I did the software update from the Dynavin's website...the unit works flawlessly !I made sure I took it on a 30 min drive around and play with every single button, turn on/off, restart, try out the navi and bluetooth as well as phone calls and other stuff as well before coming and posting that it works then have to take my words back..

Looks like it was something as simple as software update..

OBC now shows coolant temp and ambient temp.

NAVI takes a while to find the signal and thats probably because I attached the antenna to the metal frame inside the dash...I have no idea to put it to get better signal..I don't want it to be an eyesore..

Same goes for the bluetooth MIC
I mounted it right behind the steering wheel and people complain they cant hear me...tried to get closer to it but im told there is no sound...maybe ill have to move it somewhere in the headliner?

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I have no idea why the lights seem kinda yellow but they actually match the stock lights perfectly...theyre just a little stronger but I think they did a great job on that...either way, if they were yellow they would have matched my instrument cluster lights:rolleyes:(I dont know what BMW was thinking)

Im just smiling at how big a difference one of these units can make...

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I does look nice. I'm glad it worked with just a software update.

How responsive is it? Like switching between programs and pressing icons? I am trying to decide whether to go with that or the Avin avant 2. I don't have DSP. On paper I prefer the avant 2 but I am just not sure.

It is very responsive..I mean its fast enough for me and im pretty impatient:)
i cant speak for the AVIN but im really happy with this unit so far.
will do more testing tomorrow in daylight..:yawn:

Placing GPS antenna on top or under the dash gets the same reception when I tested the signal strength. You can speed up the GPS signal finding process by putting in static COM port number and COM speed number for GPS antenna instead of auto-detect in iGO Primo system file. My GPS signals are found as soon as iGO Primo loads.

so there is no way to have the dynavin use the factory mic / gps antenna?

No the Dynavin has its own mic and antenna.

four8.is, AWESOME that it was fixed! I'm betting Jeff is happy to hear that as well!

Junger thats a good tip for the GPS antenna, I'll have to remember it if I get one of these units. On my old VW I remember just sticking it (magnetic) to a metal frame as far up and back in the dash as I could (close to the air vents and top of dash), but it was hidden. Worked fine, but again I'm comparing an OEM unit. Even on an OEM unit it took a few seconds to find signal.

Guys I know people have been talking about a group buy and sure its probably worth it to ask Jeff but to be honest in my opinion $699 shipped is a damn good price for a unit with the quality and features, the OEM look at its the only one on the market to work with DSP out of the box.

The Avin 2 in my readings I think lists for $799? So its more expensive than the Dynavin

While reading about it on e90 forum, Jeff talks about the microphone being very directional and found that the best spot is up by the ultrasonic sensor.might try to put it there see what I'm getting.
I noticed the radio signal can be inconsistent at times (not too bad)but I'm already having Jeff working on it...he said he has a fix for certain conditions that will be part of a future update and that should help.

Now I have to run a wire all the way back and tape it into the reverse light wire so I can get the PDC working.I might do it with the camera though so I don't have to do it twice.

Junger, thanks for the tip!will def try that.

True...I'm just making excuses not to spend money :rofl:

So...you only have to cut the two sides of the bracket? With this unit, do you still have to keep the OE MID to keep some of the OBC functions?

four.8 - congratulations on the install. It seems that this is the unit that will refresh the E53 and bring it into the XXI century!!!

As far as GPS antenna and the mike - unless the original GPS antenna is an active unit (has internal circuitry for signal processing), you should be able to use OE antenna but you would need to route the cabling from the rear of the car to the front... Might not be a feasible idea.

The mike - same with the mike, if you trace the mike wiring in the harness and tap into it, you can feed factory microphone into the N6... Or, route the N6 mike to the factory location - depending on the direction of the N6 mike, it might work...

In OBD - what else can you see other than the coolant info? RPMs? Oil temp?

Even though I do not need this unit, I am getting just as excited as the rest of the guys!!!

How about changing the image of the 1er to an X? I bet it is just a little image file in the firmware... oh, and if you could match color of the X to your actual car's color!!!

I am getting carried away here...

Subscribed for updates

I'm curious about the factory MID too and if it needs to be hidden somewhere else in the vehicle to keep the OBD info for the N6 to display, OR can you just remove it all together (preferable)
also do Four.8iS, do you know if the SD cards for the multimedia and Nav maps have restrictions? Like no larger than 8gb or can not be SDXC cards (only SDHC)?
I e-mailed Jeff to see his response on both these questions this morning too.
PS: glad its working for you now. looks sensational and I'll be looking into it soon.

You can remove it but any OBC functions you can change on the MID itself will be "frozen", i.e. not able to be changed, but viewable. This is at least the jist I got from Jeff when I emailed him. As far as I know if you want 100% OBC functionality from the MID you probably should still relocate to the glovebox (very easy)

I have older Dynavin in my M3 and current using 32GB Micro-SD so I'm sure it will support at least 32GB. :)

I didn't want to loose any of the MID feature so I just extended the cable and place it in my glove box.

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So you have to keep the original radio
Wired after the N6 is installed? How does this work with my X that has navigation display.

Junger, you had to splice the wires in correct? Too bad there isn't an extension harness.
I use my glovebox so not sure what to do.

Yup, I did.

From what I have seen you should be able to unwrap the MID harness a bit from the cluster of radio plugs and probably get it into the glovebox intact. I could be wrong though as I've never done it.

Jeff does advertise that the N6 you don't have to move it, as some functions are supported, just not all.

You can use sd cards up to 64gb
I just wish there was a way to reset mpg and all this stuff without having to use the MID...I'm using the glove box too so I got rid of it...I think I can live without it..and you could sell the whole thing and feel good about the fact that you theoretically spent only 400$ or less on the newest Dynavin haha

my MID only shows on three features anyhow on my Cluster's OBC:
Avg Consumption,
Avg Speed and
one other I can't remember (maybe kms till fuel is empty)

I think I can live without all three of them

yes I could live without those for the sake of storage space...its not like we got a lot of it in our x5's:(

Cable is not long enough to reach since the connector on the MID is located on the right side. Cable probably might reach if I place the MID up-side-down but couldn't deal with that... :rofl:

Anyone in here use this? If so is it plug an play without and modification to the camera housing to fit it in the light socket?

the more I think about it, with the NEWNESS (potential for some bugs with hard/software) and the fact that I have my wedding in 6 months, I'm gonna hold off on this purchase till a longer term review can be made. .
who knows by then maybe Dynavin will use a multi direction mic and have software all updated for this.
I'll follow along so please keep updates going guys.
Not just Four.8iS, but anyone who buys one please write your reviews in this thread.

Good call Mike we should definitely make this the definitive Dynavin N6 thread to keep all posts consolidated.

Pumped that it's working awesome with DSP though!

Guys, the unit is still going strong after the software update;)
I moved the MIC up into the headliner - much cleaner sound I'm told..
Also I wired the GPS antenna right above driver's head under the headliner...the signal is picked up instantly now.
The hardest part was taking part of the dash out and fish the microphone wire thru the headliner. All in all, about 3 hrs of work but well worth it.
Will post some pictures later...

Yessss please show :)

ok here it is...You can see where i tucked away the gps antenna right under the roof rack..the length of the wire was just perfect for that location..take the weather stripping out and pull a little on the headliner...find some metal so attach it to via its own magnet.

The mic is in a perfect location for good sound and its not in the way really...i barely notice it there while driving..

Can't wait for somebody else to jump on board and order one of these units so you can see how good they are...

One nice thing that I noticed is if you play music on A2DP app via bluetooth and you stop the car, go shopping come back, the song will pick up where it left off...pretty neat...I hear the older ones had a problem where the song would keep playing regardless if it was connected or not ..discovering one good thing at a time...

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Nice, very nice... just a thought - do you think the mike can be hidden behind the grill of the motion sensor? or, it would impede the operation of the sensor? if it works out, than the mike is totally invisible...

very nice - I think that anyone who doesn't have a factory nav, and wants an upgraded system, should consider this setup...

now, factory nav - that could be challenging in wiring, as the radio is split unit, half in the front, half in the trunk...

i like this - good job, four.8!!! Enjoy

now I just need a piano black trim to update the cockpit even more...
seems like I had no luck finding one on ebay.de or .com so I might try painting mine...

T, I think the microphone can't be hidden behind the grille unfortunately..i might try it but since its very directional, (tried it), you'll have to talk directly towards it...maybe a better mic should work ?i really liked the oem one...

EDIT: For the ones with factory NAV, just get the FAKRA cable which is about 50$..shouldnt take more than 2 hrs to take it all the way back to the trunk then you are done..might as well do the PDC and rear view camera in the same time.

Looks good. :thumbup:

I wedged the GPS antenna between center vent tube and dash and it has been working perfect from that location. For mic, I'm still using the mic built in the unit (located on face of the unit, not external). I've been told they could hear me fine, not perfect, good enough so I haven't used the external mic.

By then, Dynavin will release newer model with more features and improvements and you will want that instead... :)

perhaps... but I will know FOR SURE that the DSP portion will work long term and so will the other features. Plus I don't like buying the first year of ANYTHING. I got caught up in the excitement of this item. I'd probably buy after 6 months of North American testing honestly. Just to make sure the bugs are worked out of all.
I'd really like to see how a few more months are on this device.

Plus, my wedding is going to need to be paid for... this stereo upgrade is strictly a toy. So wedding plans win :)

if anyone gets tired of me posting pictures please let me know so I can stop :rofl:

Im just really pumped about this thing..:cool:..

Today's updates: -played around with the NAV-works just as good as my iphone, but if in need of a quick search for stores, banks, ATM's etc , the iPhone is still my go to...

I see the nav in this thing more like for long drives and such..around town is good but it might take some time to search around and im just more used to my phone at the moment..

quick shots below.

And second update..I learned how to choose a new start-up screen...and guess what I chose?lemans blueeeeee :D..Im really likin' this thing and you guys are missing out big time if not ordering one soon:nanana:

good advertising right here...Jeff, im expecting a check in the mail soon:bustingup

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Dude that friggin thing looks sooooooo damn good, keep posting pics all the time for all I care.

Heres a question if you plug your Lightning USB Cable in and plug your phone in does it also charge the phone if playing music etc?

I read on JT distributing site that the maps updates are good for 30 days, is this true

From Dynavin comparison page, N6 shows boot time from when the doors are unlocked. Does N6 turn on when you unlock the doors? Are you able to add apps or is the unit specific to DynOS?

http://www.dynavingps.com/eBay/Comparison.jpg

You can purchase updates from iGO.

Thanks for all the pics and updates.:thumbup:
Could you give more detail on how you got the Mic into the overhead?

RB, the USB does play and charge in the same time although my iPhone seems to have it's own phases when it works and when it doesn't ...I have to look into it and see why it does that.
Probably better to try some other phone and compare the results.Will keep you updated on that one.

Never paid attention to those 20sec but it's more like 5 -7 seconds once you turn it on.gotta see if those 20 sec unlock thing actually work; I'm on my way in the garage;)

EDIT:If you leave the car, it stays on sleep mode for 20 min.
If you return to the car in that time frame the unit will be already up and running when you turn the ignition on;

The subscription is already paid for BUT you have 30 days to update it as much as you want...after that, you'll still have a fully functional NAV but future map updates will have to be paid for.

Jmcgxx, I took the instrument cluster out, lower part of the dash, A pillar , sun visor light assembly and ultrasonic sensor and the whole thing surrounding it...
All that is needed so you can take the wire from one point to another.Use something like a strong but also flexible piece of wire or plastic to fish it through especially when you get at the headliner and from lower dash to A pillar...it's pretty much self explanatory once you take all the pieces out of the way.
If you need further help, let me know !

Thanks very much, I think I've got it

The N6 rearview camera sweeps with steering wheel angle tracking??? SWEET!!!

TiAGX5, how can that happen if your camera is a stationary camera, as most installs are?

The specs on the N6 shows steering wheel tracking on rearview camera. I would think the camera has a wider field of view then the display can shows, the processor displays a narrower image behind, based on wheel angle sensor data.

A 90 deg camera and 30 deg display would give 3 full screen views of behind.

I thought the camera would be fixed and the lines would bend on the screen. I've seen it done this way on other non-BMW Nav units. Could be wrong though.

That is reverse guide lines that moves. See photo below. Camera view angle doesn't move.

http://www.toyota.com.au/static/imag...ay-940x529.jpg

Got it. Nothing special about the rearview function on the N6.

Doru, here's my experience with the radio so far ...right out of the box, the radio reception isn't the greatest.I tested it under all of the circumstances you listed above : stop lights, while driving and underground parking lots ;
the signal was worse than the OEM radio that I thought was ok, BUT Jeff sent me part of a future software update that tweaks the radio a little, and after 2 days after that update,again, doing the same kind of testing, I see a much improved radio signal and a more constant reception overall.It really made a difference and although I don't listen to the radio a lot, I'm pleased that now it works better than before.
So far, in all honesty, I have no regrets for ordering this unit .For everything that it gives you , simple and intuitive interface as well as the OEM looks, can't see a reason not to get one.

Hopefully this makes sense ..

Thanks for the feedback. I ordered one, not sure when it will show up. So I have to ask Jeff for a "radio patch", it seems.
One more question: can you please look up in the rear hatch, and see what your amp model is? (Lear, Philips, Loewe - all are O.E., but pending of the cost of the day, BMW equipped the cars with whatever was cheapest on that day). It seems the DSP works with a certain amp model.....

Interesting , I'll have to check the brand when I get back home.will let you know

OK, thanks

I didnt read all the post but is this a plug and play with the navigation units as well?

Yes you'd need an additional cable but I suggest you read the whole thread so you can get a better idea of what's needed and how it works.

Ya there's no easy way to find out the brand on this AMP
it's written on te back so in order to see it you gotta take the amp out by unscrewing about 14 screws and mess around with the bracket lol
But I got it, it's LEAR

I guys. I'm new to this forum... so "HI". I have an '02 X5 in Siena Red.

I'm really glad to see this thread. I purchased the Enonon unit about a year ago and it has totally failed on me. The touch screen went out, and honestly... from day 1... it was very buggy. That's another story though.

I've been looking at this unit as a replacement and I'm please to see the positive comments. Thanks for the pictures and details. I've been very concerned about replacing the other unit with something that was equally as bad. Thanks guys, lots of good info out here at this forum.

Ian Spencer
Dayton, Ohio
2002 X5

Thank you very much Sir, I really, really appreciate this!!!!

You are welcome.let me know if you need the software update and I'll PM it to you;)

Will do
Thx!!!!!

This thread, and the audio specs of the dynavin N6 have me convinced. I will be buying an N6 as soon as I can come up with the money! I will probably order within the next week or so.

Typically I would buy a Pioneer or Alpine or Kenwood but they just don't have the OEM look or the nearly plug-n-play installation the way the N6 does. I know I will have to run a cable to the rear of the X5, but that's small peanuts conpared to installing and wiring a whole new amp.

Welcome to the forums, glad to see another Daytonian here. Subscribing to the thread as I am looking into upgrading the NAV.

Dorin I'm looking forward to seeing your install and impressions as well!

any more updates :)

I'm waiting for others to buy and post pics of their N6 install:)
Mine works good, no complaints so far...

How about PDC integration? Done it yet? Any idea what it would look like on the screen?

Unfortunately I didn't get to it yet; been really busy for the past 2 weeks...I really am curious too if and how it's going to work and look.
After the brake job which is long due (planning to do it next week sometime) , I should find a day to play some more with the wires; in the meantime I hope Doru gets his and does the install so you guys can have more info on the same product from different persons.

Installed my N6, works right out of the box, plug & play.
The rear camera cables are also routed to the back - but this took me quite a bit. I will probably install the rear camera this weekend.
Four.8is, I will PM you for the radio patch. I noticed some slight drop-outs of the radio stations.

This is great news how awesome is it Dorin?

:thumbup:

Better than the Hualigan I have on my e39 (Haven't had any issues with it since the 1st day I had it).
It's a newer model, faster, looks better. Has also more features (which I probably won't use frequent). So far, on the old model day-to-day use is mostly radio, bluetooth & nav. The Dynavin will use probably the same functions, plus the rear camera (pending install - it took me a while to pull all the wires neatly in the back of the car).
The autodimming feature set on the light sensor, is quite something....I haven't had time to explore everything this unit is doing, but concerning bluetooth it picks up all my contacts, no problem. There is no sense reviewing the unit - lots of posts on that, and they are pretty much spot on. Gives a nice updated look inside the cabin, that's for sure.

Hey Doru,

What kind of rear backup camera are you using? Does it perfectly fit or do you have to mod it to fit and where is the location you installed it. Also if you can post the directions that you routed your cables from back to the front.

I think it will fit like the OE lic plate light. I haven't installed it yet - it is on Jeff's Dynavin page, haven't had time to install it yet and in my hands it looks like the OE dimensions.
Concerning the wires, they are pulled to the trunk.
In my case, they go from the dash inside the middle console (remove the carpet paneling from the gas pedal to the middle of the console and fish it.
Remove the driver seat. remove the door sills driver side front & rear. Remove the "B" pillar cover. Fish the wire where the carpet splits under the driver seat. Fish the cable under both door sills. replace the sills pillar cover and seat. Remove the rear seat. Remove the 2 plastic tool panels in the rear hatch. Fish the wire under the rear seat and in the rear hatch under the driver side carpeted panel. This is where I stopped. The wires are resting where the amp is.
here I need to make a connection around the battery where the rear signal is, and a connection to the ground for the rear camera wire.
Then it will go in the "D" pillar up through the wire loom snorkel and into the rear hatch door to the camera & lic plate light.

This is the camera, copied form Jandtdistributors (Jeff's Dyanvin page, hope he doesn't mind)

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/029...G?v=1408642488

Doru, do you have DSP audio? Have you integrated PDC to the unit?

Doru that's great news .Do you have PDC also?im curious how that works as I can't seem to find the time to tackle this wiring job.In for some pictures with the camera mounted on when you get to it.
Radio reception is better with the patch hopefully your experience will be the same.sending it your way in a sec.

I also ordered the N6, just got the shipping confirmation yesterday!

Dorin also wondering did you relocate the MID? Or is it disconnected completely (I.E. what would you lose anyway)

I don't have PDC.
As I said, I will continue the rest of the install (the easy part coming this weekend).
Looking at the wiring & labeling of the supplied wire harnesses in the Dynavin box, if you have PDC, it can be installed, and I think this would be an easy install, because if you have the PDC, the wiring is already installed in the car from factory. It's just a matter of replacing those signal wires from the OE headunit to the Dynavin headunit.
If you don't have PDC, then you have to do what I did, and you can do both (PDC & camera) in one shot.
I just finished patching the Dynavin OS & the Nav software. I purchased the map extras with buildings etc (for 12 bucks.....). I am curious to see how it looks. today I took my e39 to work, so I don't know yet. My wife needed a vehicle, she doesn't like sedans, so she has to enjoy it today.

Ouch, only works to -10°C?

Have been doing a lot of research between Dynavin and Avin - spoke to Jeff who confirmed based on my usage that a Dynavin would be better.

Only then to find that Dynavin have now put blocks on international trade of their units, and that I have to buy one off the sole local supplier in Australia- who are selling them for $2,000 - double the price of the same unit sold in the US.

Dynavin - pull your head in.

four.8is and Doru how is the Dynavin experience. Looking to pull the trigger on this this weekend with Jeff. I will be buying with the Nav cable and reverse camera.

Thanks

Everything's going great.I pretty much enjoy it a lot..I'm getting lots of compliments on the OE look and how much it actually updated my interior...
On the other hand, the Bluetooth stopped working tonight...tried resetting the unit, the phone, and I'm getting nowhere...although in the BT devices list it does give me Dynavin N6 option but it says Dynavin N6 is off or out of range...

Gotta take a look at it tomorrow and see what exactly is the problem.

I'll let Doru comment more on it:D

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I've got mine installed. Despite some confusion on my part about a mislabeled connector, it was easy. Great support from Jeff too.

Did you do the cable to the rear with back up camera ? How do you like it with all the features

What is the experience with DSP equipped cars? Does the N6 work fine with it?

Yes so far 2 ppl had success installing it in cars equipped with DSP.but some people need to read the whole thread first then post questions that have been already answered.;)

I barely had the time to get the base install done, and I still have to tidy up. So far I am happy to have Bluetooth audio from my iphone. The sound is much better than the stock and I have a REAL nav system.

I like the idea of this unit but cutting any panel is scary to me. I like to keep things in a manner where I can put the stock part back in.

what's so scary about it?put the dremel tool on it and cut it off...keep it for future re-install of your stock radio...JB weld will take care of it...

Its like saying "I like the idea of getting a haircut but im afraid of the scissors..."

cut your hair...in the event you dont like it...glue it back on with..you guessed it.JB weld..(don't try that!)
GL

lol.

My hair grows back.

For now Ill envy you guys. I modified the crap out of my previous 528i, but Im just extra careful with the 4.8is. I dont know why.

You know that plastic panel can be unbolted instead of cut.

Thank you everyone for the posts and info here.

Q for anyone who had factory Nav and installed the Dynavin N6: how does the On Board Computer function with it? I see OBC is supported but can you actually control OBC options?

For example: with the factory nav unit, if you push and hold the button on the turn signal stock it goes into program mode from which you can select which items come up on the dash display.

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Also can you actually recalc the milage?

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Not true, it has to be cut on non-nav models, I installed a Hualingan last summer, plus there's a loooooong thread about the Hualingan install.

Here is where I routed the mic for Bluetooth, and it works exceptionally well:

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I just pulled the trigger on the N6 with Jeff. Head unit, extension cable and back up camera. I will update

Anyone retained their OBC functionality after Dynavin Install? If not then how do you reset the OBC, can it just be done from the cluster?

Not going to work anymore...not bothered by it honestly...

Simply how is the time set of the OEM head is no longer there and is replaced by the Dynavin?

Sounds like mixed info on the On Board Computer OBC function being retained then? My post of #147 here is getting at the ability to adjust what features come up with push button on the turn signal stock.

Can one of your guys test what happens now when you press the BC button in on your turn signal stock?

Also agreed on question of how to set clock for car computer, does setting the clock on N6 interact with CANbuss ?


Here is the info I have read on OBC with N6, I am really curious for anyone here who has done N6 to replace factory NAV who can test/speak to OBC details after.

..........
'From what I understand with respect to OBC, is you need to set the items you want displayed on the gauge cluster BEFORE removing the stock radio. Then when you hit the BC button on the signal stick, you can scroll through what you made visible at the time of removal. That's about all you get OBC wise. We'll see how this install goes and if that is the case.'
from here: http://www.xoutpost.com/1001508-post24.html

You can re-set fuel consumption, etc from the stalk. Everything that worked from the stalk works. You cannot unlock the OBC through the 2 buttons from the dash anymore, unless you hook up the HU in the glovebox.
Not sure about the clock, the Dynavin has it's own time, so I'm using that one. Never used the dash time anyways.

Doru,
Maybe I am unfamiliar with the 04-06 X5 and that's what driving my questions; however , when I depress my stalk to reset fuel consumption I get "prog" and I can't seem to reset it.

Thanks

Right. You cannot reset it as he does. Although both are high clusters Doru's ECU firmware is different and the cluster can be rest through the stalk. I believe only 4.4 has that option however the cluster only shows: Average speed, MPG, range to empty or something like that.
He does not get the prog as you do that enables the options to select to display on the cluster.

Check this answer (Bimmerforums #303) concerning the N6 unit - if you have O.E. Nav:
"I just installed an N6 in my 01 M5, which has(had?) a MKIII Nav unit that looks just like yours (although mine never shows 22.4 MPG! lol ).

Before installing the N6, I had gone into the Remote Control config menu and de-selected any menu item I wouldn't use anymore. I had the OBD display down to the basics - fuel consumption, average speed, current time, etc. However, when I disconnected the MKIII drive in the trunk (or when the battery died - I'm not sure which), the OBD display defaulted to all fields present. So, I can still cycle through the displays on the OBD (using the BC button) just like I did before.

Unfortunately, I've not found a way to reset any of the parameters with the N6 installed. So, for now my MPG will be a running average. I assume it's is a fairly simple iBus command to reset it, so hopefully that functionality will appear in the future. Disconnecting the battery will reset the MPG, but it also resets some of the N6 menus to default so I'm not sure that's a viable option, really.

I've also not found a voice recognition feature. Holding down the phone button on the steering wheel doesn't activate anything besides redialing the last number you called. As Jeff mentioned, the new iOS 8 "Hey Siri" functionality does work, but only when the phone is plugged in.

Best of luck! "

Trying to install the N6 into my 06 4.8is with Nav. There is absolutely no installation instruction, just a generic diagram on the radio. I don't see how I can connect my radio tuner by my battery to this Ficka cable. The adapters I received does not seems to be comparable

The e53 adapter has round pins. Am I missing something here

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When doing the N6 in a car with prior Nav do you have to run the new cable from the back of the N6 to the back of the X (going to the AMP input)? I see something on their site about a 6M long cord
Dynavin

Hope you find some instructions and I am curious on what you find too.

^^

You need optional cable that runs from head unit to trunk.

http://junger12.home.comcast.net/~ju.../360/Cable.jpg

Motorsport, I had the same issue. The fakra cable harness adapter was labeled wrong! Try the other adapter. The one that does not have E53 on it.

Has anyone heard from Jeff recently? I tried emailing him with some specific questions ready to pull the trigger, but have not received a response. Does he monitor these posts at all?

What I would like to know is anyone with factory PDC does it come up on camera like it displays on the website? Also has anyone installed aftermarket amps using the HU low level outputs?

His post to a similar query in the e46fanatics forum (post #196) seems to indicate that is the case.

DYNAVIN N6 Multimedia GPS System, New for mid-2014 - Page 10 - E46Fanatics

My factory pdc does not show up, but I have not yet dug into why.

Stock Mic
 

Will it work with the stock microphone or do you have to use the Dynavin mic?

Dynavin mic

A quick update for those who ask questions about OBC functionality after installing the Dynavin N6 unit & removing the OE HU unit.
On 2004 X5 4.4 with DSP no Nav, after installing the Dynavin, below are the functionality you have:

OBC: both reset buttons work like prior installing the Dynavin. You can enter the VIN & unlock the OBC, check all the tests incl KTMP & Voltage. The turn stalk is functional, resetting fuel consumption. I haven't tried the clock function - this is probably related to the HU OE unit, and you cannot probably change the date/time, but as I said I haven't tried that.
Steering wheel: all buttons are functional and work with the unit, just as if it was the OE HU installed.

In both cases, there is no need to splice or run additional wires, everything works plug & play.

The only "hassle" is to re-route the Parrot mic, and if you want rear view camera, to route the cable to the back of the car.

If you have a OE HU unit, this is a highly recommended mod, the Dyanvin works as advertised, giving a ton of extra features you never had with the OE HU unit, retaining pretty much the stock OBC options (maybe minus the OE clock - I have to research this as posted above). Also, it updates the interior very, very nicely.

The screen is re-worked, and tilted down a little more compared with older models, and also the luminosity is re-worked. This was my biggest fear knowing that the X dash is tilted upwards, and thus glaring when driving in bright sunshine could be a very big issue. I tried it driving in mid-day when the sun was at it's brightest point, and I also opened the sunroof. I can say, I could see the screen quite comfortably, without me needing to change the driving position to see the screen. The unit has also the built-in light sensor, which allows to set the luminosity of the screen to the surrounding ambient light. I left the unit on auto-light & set with the sensor. The brighter the sun, the brighter the screen. During night driving, the screen is probably barely lit, but the luminosity is just spot-on, without intruding in your line of view while driving.

before ordering it, I was on the fence between this unit and the Avin. The Avin has a totally different screen, which is probably better (has the "glass" screen, like an Iphone), but is Android based, so most of it's functionality is based on the user's phone, which I didn't want to rely on. The biggest drawback however is the fact that you have to re-work the wiring to make it work with a DSP setup, which was the turnoff for me (together with the phone-based functionality)

The Dynavin N6 still works with your Android or Iphone, no problem, and for me that was what I was looking for. I can stream music if I want via Bluetooth (no wires needed), hands-free phone, GPS & radio which are the main features I use, and wanted for a double din. the rest is just icing on the cake.

Great product.

Well Dorin, you sold me. Now to come up with the $700 for the modification. It's the most proper aftermarket but OEM looking setup I've seen to date.

I currently have a SpecDock set up for Iphone/Ipod integration. Will I still be able to somehow utilize the dock, or will the only options be BT/Aux? I prefer a dock over Aux (because of random wires lying about) and over BT (because of battery life.) Also get to charge with the dock. Haven't done any research on this, just off the top of my head.

Matt you will lose that functionality because the N6 has USB inputs built into the unit, so you can use either a Dock cable or a Lightning cable for iphone/ipod integration.

I have a USA Spec ipod interface currently as well, I guess I'd probably sell it if I got the N6.

Gotcha, thanks. That would kinda spite me to lose the SpecDock, butI guess you can't have it both ways!

I'd actually be stoked to lose my interface, would be awesome to not have to control my phone by looking at it (i.e. on the N6 just plug it in and control from the touchscreen!), as I really keep it in there for playing music. Could also use BT on the phone and stream Sirius if I hook up the iP5 as well

Yeah, gues you got a point, the dock does place it in an awkward position. Oh well, I won't be going there right away yet. I'll have to find some way to make a dock work with an N6 thru a usb connected dock.

This may be a stupid question but I am currently having radio issues with my cucurrent 16:9 navigation would this effectively replace all the parts that could possibly be broken or bad? I am ready to be done with 9 year old radio components. The car does have DSP and an aftermarket sub with aftermarket amp (previous owner). Thanks

Not sure but it might be the antenna that's going bad and I think there's 2? One in each C pillar; somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
Since you have aftermarket amp , you have 2 options now.N6 or the Avin 2 unit
Choose one that fits you best.

I have narrowed down my issues to the radio module in the trunk or the head it itself. The aftermarket amp is only a two channel spliced into the factory harness for the subwoofer. I am leaning towards the Dynavin because the factory Nav is so hard to read. The radio turns itself on and off like the Ibus can not read it properly and is powering up and then down then powering up on its own.

My N6 arrived last night. Just re read the thread to mentally prep for the install - it has got me all hot under the dollar - can't wait!

Just completed my N6 install with back up camera. And I am very satisfied, with the exception of the license plate light error, I will have to do some more with load resistor to get light off

Is the error from the back up camera or is it your bulbs?

Bulb error, licensee plate light out. Switched with original bulbs and error went away.

Concerning the back-up camera.
I first tried the camera I purchased from Jeff. After I removed the trims in the back, in order to fish the cable through the tail gate, and after removing the lic plate light, I noticed there is lots of cutting involved. There I stopped, and researched some more for options.
What I found, is this one here (take a look how slim the connector is):

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDYwMA...SuTFx/$_12.JPG

from e-bay. Linky.
The downside is you have to drill a hole in the back of the lic plate - which I did, run a rubber grommet plus some silicone caulking (self etching primer before that on the bare metal). This camera doesn't have the "lines" painted on the lens, like the other one. I will post some pics later how it's attached and how the screen looks. It's attached on the lower part of the lic plate so as to not interfere with the tailgate "handle" - otherwise it would be a tight fit to squeeze your hands to release the tailgate. Upside is very easy to run the cables & install (except routing the cables from front of the car to the rear).

Really grateful for this thread.
I am flying down south on Friday to pick up my second 4.8iS and purposely tracked one down without NAV to make the dynavin install a little easier.

I guess i'll be going through Jeff for the purchase because this thread has shown that he provides good customer service which seems like a necessity with installation questions.
I look forward to being back behind the wheel :cool:

You're coming back to us bro? Specs on the new 4.8?? Lookin forward to havin ya back man, your old LeMans was immaculate!

If all goes well on Friday I will be driving home an 06 with super low miles. I don't want to jinx myself but yea I am definitely coming back. The 7 was great and I enjoyed it for two years but I have missed the X since I got rid of it.

One of my driving forces for the sale was the lack of technology but I have a feeling the Dynavin should resolve that. Keep an eye out though I have some pretty cool ideas and mods planned for this one (planning on giving it a permanent home).

- Olek

/threadjack

PDC Integration Not Working
 

Recently installed N6 on an E53 and high hopes for the unit. Generally pretty good although iGo Navigation is not up to Garmin standards; regularly takes wrong routes and display is cluttered and despite all the options can't declutter it.

The iPhone interface could do with some improvements, I haven't been able to navigate Artist->Album->Track and then reverse in the same sequence.

Biggest problem is PDC, it simply doesn't work. Screen doesn't engage when put into reverse and even when using the green reverse wire to activate reverse, the camera then comes on but no PDC display. Had it checked by BMW and no issues with PDC.

Anyone else had a problem with PDC or success?

I am still behind with all the camera and PDC thing but as I understood it, PDC integration works with SOME models so it was never a sure thing that it was going to work in our e53...

PDC Success
 

I've got the PDC display to work on my E53 X5 :cool: The problem was I was testing it by putting the car into reverse without the engine running. Although the PDC sensors beep correctly and the reverse camera is shown on the display the PDC dispaly on the Dynavin shows nothing. However with the engine running it all works perfectly.

The only thing I might change is that currently I activate the head unit from the reversing light output on the Light Module Controller (X38 connector pin 9 or 10). It would be better to use the PDC light output since PDC is engaged in both forward and reverse gears when parking (X38 connector pin 1). Currently the Dynavin screen switches off when I put it into drive.

Dynavin N6 install -Pics!
 

I'll give all those playing at home a hot tip - do NOT buy the reverse camera off the J&T website with your Dynavin order, it does not fit at all. This is the one that goes in the license plate light location. I have spent the past 6 hours making it fit. So progress has been slow.


Recommend using a universal butterfly camera in the lower tailgate instead.

You need to run a relay with the reverse camera. The reverse light wire or the PDC wire has to much noise in the line. Use a relay and use the reverse light as the trigger. Since I don't use my CD changer anymore ( not sure who does) I used the power wire from that to my relay.

Ted

I agree. I had to epoxy mine in to the holder. I need to do an update some time next summer. Also the camera led for the license plate light triggers the license plate warning light on the cluster.

Yeah I basically had to cut it down with a dremel until it resembled a flat base with a camera sticking out of it, then trim the borders so it would sit flush in the light housing, fill with Sikaflex and tape it all together and allow to dry overnight.

I turned my license plate bulb check off but it still throws the code....annoying.

there is another line in coding, to REPORT the code to the cluster. turn that line off too...

Thanks mate, will get onto it. Got a feeling this is not going to be a quick install.....

Dynavin N6 install -Pics!
 

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...4b4bedc59e.jpg

Got camera in and lights wired up. Had to downgrade the led over my license plate to match the p1ss weak one integrated to the camera....coded out the bulb cold check and warning message off display as suggested - thanks for the tip!


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How are you guys coding the license plate error off the cluster

cold monitoring off for license plate lights - KENNZEICHENLI_PRUEF - nicht_melden; CC_MELDUNG_KZL - nicht_activ; KALTUEBERWACHUNG_KZL - nicht_activ

Dynavin N6 install -Pics!
 

Just used BMW Scanner 1.4.0.

Do not trust myself with Inpa or GT1. If anyone could brick a car it would be me!




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All I have is INPA DIS And SSS

:iagree:

On using BMW Scanner 1.4.0

Not about the Comment " Do not trust myself with Inpa or GT1. If anyone could brick a car it would be me!".

:rofl:

You should have NCS Expert which you can use to disable the warnings. NCS usually is part of the INPA package.

I do have it, I will need to google how to use it