when do you think that is going to happen?

not sure but version 25.01 - 25.04 all pretty much came out within 2 months, so hopefully very soon.

So the rtti does not work for everyone with the new upgrade?

i haven't heard of anyone saying that RTTI works after getting flashed to one of the version 25 flavors.

there's also some problems with some people losing VR. many of the folks that have gotten the flash don't mind that RTTI/VR works b/c iDrive is so much faster and it now includes POI search, so I guess its a tradeoff till everything gets fixed.

My RTTI is gone as well. What I can't tell you is if it was working the week before the car went in for the upgrade. Maybe this is a coincidence. What blows my mind is that the dealer has no idea and claims that no one at BMW know either. Go figure!

There are documented SIBs that your dealer can get about all software upgrade 25.01-25.04 and they are all available now. They just don't want to do their homework.

I took my car in for service yesterday 'cause BMW assist couldn't get the location of my car. I just got a call from the service and said they will be updating software for the nav. and I mentioned about the RTTI not working afterwards. He told me not to worry 'cause there's a on/off function in Idrive? He also told me the car would be ready tomorrow so I'll check and let you guys know. I hope it'll be ready tomorrow, got X3 as a loaner and I really miss my X5.

I turned the RTTI option on and it still is not working.

He obviously has no idea what the deal is.

I picked mine up today after having Sirius installed. I have to tell you, I've never seen so much drama surrounding an installation of the Sirius radio. They had the vehicle a total of four business days because of this. It was all because the software refused to see it. As I was reading the notes on the RO, I just shook my head. Problems with "enabling codes" for the Sirius unit, using "SSS" called "PUMA," etc. These people use more acronyms than I do at work...which is pretty bad.

But I digress. Back on topic. They updated my software as well. Now I have no RTTI. And I am 100% certain I had it before I took it in, as my passenger was playing with it on the way to the dealer before it went in for the Sirius installation.

But, now it's gone. When I look at it, it says "transfering data" or something like that. But it never does anything. No plus sign next to the TI. I have a subscription to a service on my cell phone that has worked for a couple of years, so I'm not completely in the dark. But I'm not going to wait a long time to get a feature back that was (and is) a selling point of the vehicle.

The software problems are very amateurish to me. It must go through very poor quality assurance processes. I do like the new map colors, and I do like the more snappy iDrive interface. But I want my darn real-time traffic information back!!!

By the way, if VR is voice recognition, I still have that--at least for the functions I used it for on the way home. (Menus, radio.) I didn't use it with Navigation, however.

So, like the rest of you, I wait to get my RTTI back.

Joel