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Weasel 10-30-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by E61Silver (Post 675146)
Bridgestone & Firestone are both the same company and they have a bad recorded, from the 500's to rollovers with Ford. I can't believe BMW would sell cars with Bridgestone tires its like Tiffany selling fake diamonds.:confused:

Yes and no. Ford chose to use asofter tire running at lower tire pressure to make the ride softer, compensating for stiff/rough riding suspension. If ford has used proper load range tire with proper inflation there wouldn't have been a problem. I put just as much blame on ford as on bridgestone.

Low Note 10-30-2009 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Weasel (Post 675208)
Yes and no. Ford chose to use asofter tire running at lower tire pressure to make the ride softer, compensating for stiff/rough riding suspension. If ford has used proper load range tire with proper inflation there wouldn't have been a problem. I put just as much blame on ford as on bridgestone.

You make a good point here. This is one reason why rft's have all earned a bad name, in spite of the fact that some (especially Michelins) have had a very good track record. If rft's are not kept inflated to the maximum (not minimum) recommended pressure, they do not wear well, nor do they handle very well, regardless of the brand. Yes, the first generation Bridgestone rft's had problems. But now with the third generation, most of the problems have been resolved. I happen to like Michelins mainly because they are more prone to be round and easy to balance, and usually have a long tread life. However, this can be at the cost of unreliable handling in emergency situations, where the Bridgestones are often better (softer rubber compound). Pirelli rft's really handle well in the wet, but don't have any tread life.

Weasel 10-31-2009 02:08 AM

On the E90s with 16" bridgestone runflats after 10k miles they'd sound like big mud tires due to the excessively choppy wear on the inner edge... we ended up replacing many of them with continental contipro contact rfts and those seemed to last longer and ride smoother/quieter overall, and are cheaper. Continentals are moving up in the world, getting much better with the newer tires.

cmyX6go 10-31-2009 06:58 AM

I feel sorry for anyone that searches Michelin vs Bridgestone runflats and comes across this thread.

My threads are supposed to be useless. :whistle:

E61Silver 10-31-2009 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Weasel (Post 675208)
Yes and no. Ford chose to use asofter tire running at lower tire pressure to make the ride softer, compensating for stiff/rough riding suspension. If ford has used proper load range tire with proper inflation there wouldn't have been a problem. I put just as much blame on ford as on bridgestone.

I agree I just feel that Michelin makes the best tires and that is what I want on my BMW. I am sure that other are fine I just want the best. A BMW would be fine with vinyl seats and you don't really need cruise control and in the same spirit you get stuck with lesser tires. The Toyota that I have needs news tires and I am going to pay more, $30 a tire+/-, for Michelin.

motordavid 10-31-2009 08:39 AM

No experience with the RFT version of any of the above, but I wouldn't bat an
eye over B'Stone tires in general; have had very good service from them. The
Ford situ was cheap azz version of brand name tires and underinflation...

Low Note 10-31-2009 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Weasel (Post 675291)
On the E90s with 16" bridgestone runflats after 10k miles they'd sound like big mud tires due to the excessively choppy wear on the inner edge... we ended up replacing many of them with continental contipro contact rfts and those seemed to last longer and ride smoother/quieter overall, and are cheaper. Continentals are moving up in the world, getting much better with the newer tires.

I have heard similar stories from many other drivers (not just BMW drivers) who have had wear problems with Bridgestone rft's. According to the "experts", the third generation Bridgestone rft's will not have such problems. We'll see. My recently retired Mercedes E Class had Conti non-rft's, and they handled well and rode very comfortably, which is something I did not expect since Conti used to be known for making square tires. But in the end, I have to agree with you and others in this forum that Michelin does make the best quality tires in the industry. I will start a new thread about my experience with the Michelins that came on my 2010 X6 as the miles go by.

Michelle 11-03-2009 01:05 PM

:bmw: :excited: 10 DAYS! :excited: :bmw:

cmyX6go 11-03-2009 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Michelle (Post 676331)
:bmw: :excited: 10 DAYS! :excited: :bmw:

I know...I'm sooo fookin excited. I started behaving myself driving to work today. I need to get in a different mind set. I can't be driving home the way I drive around here. Those good ole boys won't take kindly to a New Yorker with a vowel and the end of her name tearing up their roadway in a shiny new BMW. I don't think my get out of jail free cards will work down there. :saad: :rofl:

I already set up Phil to wax and seal her up when I get back.

E61Silver 11-03-2009 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=cmyX5go;676334]I know...I'm sooo fookin excited. I started behaving myself driving to work today. I need to get in a different mind set. I can't be driving home the way I drive around here. Those good ole boys won't take kindly to a New Yorker with a vowel and the end of her name tearing up their roadway in a shiny new BMW. I don't think my get out of jail free cards will work down there. :saad: :rofl:

I am sure a nice smile will still work.;)


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