My experience with a laptop GT1

[TwinsPoppa]

Contacted Yohotech about the OPS package. Apparently its the exact same software - DIS v55 and SSS v32. Available on DVDs or HDD pre-installed.

Price is approx. $700. The hardware includes:
- OPS head (orange head)
- OPS OBDII cable
- OPS LAN cable
- MOST cable

However, Jackey from Yohotech informed me that the clone OPS head is NOT as stable for programming as the DK (yellow head). So, for those thinking about using OPS for other BMWs you should think about it some more.

[koister2001]

Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa

Contacted Yohotech about the OPS package. Apparently its the exact same software - DIS v55 and SSS v32. Available on DVDs or HDD pre-installed.

Price is approx. $700. The hardware includes:
- OPS head (orange head)
- OPS OBDII cable
- OPS LAN cable
- MOST cable

However, Jackey from Yohotech informed me that the clone OPS head is NOT as stable for programming as the DK (yellow head). So, for those thinking about using OPS for other BMWs you should think about it some more.

Any updates on the SSS? Can someone educate me what SSS can do that DIS can't?

[TwinsPoppa]

Originally Posted by koister2001

Any updates on the SSS? Can someone educate me what SSS can do that DIS can't?

Also, depends on the version of DIS vs SSS.

DIS v44 and under (I have v43) can do both diagnosing and programming using the DK (yellow head).

DIS v45 and higher (like DIS v55 on the DVDs we also have) can ONLY diagnose - no programming capability at all. It still uses the DK head to do this.

Thats why SSS is always included with systems DIS v45 and higher, to do the programming portion. SSS can ONLY program - no diagnosing capability at all. SSS usually uses the OPS (orange head).

I'm waiting on getting a copy of the good files from Riaz. Yohotech is shipping it to him now.

Also, I thought I read somewhere that SSS can NOT do any of the Car/Key Memory settings. However, if not, then where?

Now, according to weasel, there are only two BMW models that can be programmed with SSS but using the DK NOT the OPS. One is the E53 and the other I don't know.

So, seems to me if you want to program for later model BMWs then you need to use OPS - which has been verified to be not as stable as the DK for programming. What that exactly means or how you can quantify that - I don't know.

BTW .. I noticed a date on my DIS v43 and it said 9/2005. So, cautiously I'm going to assume that is the cutoff date for models to be "safely" supported by DIS v43.

Keep in mind this is my understanding and I could be off on some of this. I certainly hope I'm not too far off.

[cjawahir]

can v55 , read fault code and clear fault and also see live data ? or just read fault code ?

cj

[TwinsPoppa]

Originally Posted by cjawahir

can v55 , read fault code and clear fault and also see live data ? or just read fault code ?

cj

Hmmm... I believe the correct answer is it can read AND clear faults. The reason I say this is you use the Diagnosis section to do tests and it gives you the faults. Then it gives you the option to delete them w/o leaving the Diagnosis area.

That's if I'm remembering correctly using v43. I'm assuming v55 works the same way.

The part about live data I can verify that it does that with voltage in v43. Again, I assume v55 is the same. What other live data it can read, I don't know.

[katit]

Originally Posted by cjawahir

can v55 , read fault code and clear fault and also see live data ? or just read fault code ?

cj

In short session that I had with DIS 55 I was able to read all errors and erase them. I would say that it's doing 99% of what I need. If I ever need to program something I will get laptop or figure something else.

I noticed that it doesn't give error descriptions fo DME, just codes

[TwinsPoppa]

Originally Posted by katit

In short session that I had with DIS 55 I was able to read all errors and erase them. I would say that it's doing 99% of what I need. If I ever need to program something I will get laptop or figure something else.

I noticed that it doesn't give error descriptions fo DME, just codes

Hmm ... I wonder if its the same with v43? Anyways, try punching in the BMW codes and get the descriptions that way. Link from first post:

ODB-II Codes

[01 BMW_X5]

Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa

However, Jackey from Yohotech informed me that the clone OPS head is NOT as stable for programming as the DK (yellow head). So, for those thinking about using OPS for other BMWs you should think about it some more.

Thanks, was getting ready to order one for a friend in Dallas.
Will have to disappoint him and tell him to hold on.

There is a place that has v44 install disks but the price is $240. If I can get a copy and then install it into v55 would be great.

[Weasel]

In the dealer world (real DK head and OPS head) both heads are used for programming on different cars. The ops/opps head has never done me wrong for programming except for the vehicles not supported (mainly E46 and E53) For those 2 it is the DK head.

Sorry if I'm incoherent as it is after 4 am and I am pretty drunk.. (thank god for spell checker, I have 2 keyboards!)

[TwinsPoppa]

Originally Posted by weasel56

In the dealer world (real DK head and OPS head) both heads are used for programming on different cars. The ops/opps head has never done me wrong for programming except for the vehicles not supported (mainly E46 and E53) For those 2 it is the DK head.

Sorry if I'm incoherent as it is after 4 am and I am pretty drunk.. (thank god for spell checker, I have 2 keyboards!)

Is ya nutz! You're addicted to alcohol AND X5world!

I'm positive I couldn't type that much, with spellchecker or not, being drunk. Also, I'm pretty sure I would pass out and not be capable of trying to get online!

So, weasel, what about my Car/Key Memory rumor about not being able to do any of those settings with SSS?