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Old 05-29-2011, 01:17 AM
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I have owned many BMW's and I fully knew what I was getting into. Actually I expected worse - mine has only required normal preventative maint. that any high performance german lux / sports sedan needs. Brakes, oil changes, a CV boot cracked, radiator started leaking so replaced entire cooling system, now at 120K miles the front control arm bushings are shot so replacing those and w few other related items in the front end. Shocks could use replacement too.

I would never own a vehicle like this or my E38 740i unless I could do 80% of the repairs and maint. myself. Even the parts are rather expensive and there is plenty of preventative maint that needs to be done once or twice in a reasonable expected lifetime of pretty much any BMW - X5 is no exception to that.

I keep eyeing the Pilot lease deals for $300 / month which is under $4K per year and think I would pay at least half that even in a low year, never mind the 20-25% gas savings. But do you see a Pilot in my driveway? Well, not just yet you don't!! But there is this '93 red E34 M5 that is calling my name and I can't help but consider doing a double switch and replacing the E38 with the M5 and then swap the Pilot for the X5.


I gotta say tho - I drove both the X5 and the 740i today and I do very much enjoy driving them both..... Very different but both excellent road cars with fantastic drivetrains.
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Old 05-29-2011, 07:25 AM
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BUT watch out for the X5 E53 pre facelift with the 5 gear automatic GM gearbox. Thats a big problem and really expensive.
Mother in law has a 2001 with 77K and no issues with her transmission. She's replaced the transmission fluid twice for preventative maintenance. Both at 5 and 10 years.
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:31 AM
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I guess my buying a 4.8 after having had the 4.4 for four years means that I am comfortable with it though a bit miffed at the sudden eruption of problmes at the 90k mark on the 4.4.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:11 AM
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Yes I probably would. I bought new and would probably look to change it out as the warranty ended, or make certain I had a decent extended warranty (which I now do) to protect from any nasty surprises. I've had a few unexpected issues, but overall the driving performance and usefullness of my E53 meant that instead of trading it, I kept it and my wife now drives it.

I did buy a new 2011 X6 40d six months ago and love it. What happens when its warranty expires depends upon my financial position, health and the cost of fuel (horrendous in the UK) and also how reliable the X6 has been. I may just keep it and buy a decent warranty, but who knows..........?
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I would buy one again. I have grown to love the character of German vehicles, and the X5 brings that character to an SUV platform. The only other real candidate is the Cayenne, but from what I hear they are even more expensive to maintain.

I do appreciate that I can do most of the work on my X5 myself, especially with the advice of others on Xoutpost. This certainly makes me want to stay in the X5 family.

I am not totally surprised by the amount of maintenance required at the 100k miles point. For me, its been both front outer CV joint boots, the final stage resistor, the alternator, and now some transmission issues. I'm in the middle of changing the torque converter seal - I think I got it early enough that the transmission is still OK. I expect to have a valley pan gasket in my future, but so far no signs of leaking.

A Honda would be cheaper to maintain due to parts cost being so low, but is a Lexus or Acura really that much more reliable or cheaper to maintain? Probably somewhat better ... but would I give up the German character for a few less hassles. No.
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:38 AM
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I am not totally surprised by the amount of maintenance required at the 100k miles point. For me, its been both front outer CV joint boots, the final stage resistor, the alternator, and now some transmission issues. I'm in the middle of changing the torque converter seal - I think I got it early enough that the transmission is still OK. I expect to have a valley pan gasket in my future, but so far no signs of leaking.

A Honda would be cheaper to maintain due to parts cost being so low, but is a Lexus or Acura really that much more reliable or cheaper to maintain? Probably somewhat better ... but would I give up the German character for a few less hassles. No.
Acura or Lexus would require a lot less preventative maint - for example those don't need a cooling system refresh at 100K, nor do they need a front suspension refresh. But they are far less rewarding to drive for those of us who appreciate the difference. I did a ski trip a few months back and we took my buddy's MDX but I did all the driving since he was just coming off wrist surgery. They are nothing like a BMW to drive - just basic appliances is all they are. Which is fine for 95% of drivers out there. I guess if you are unsure if you are in the 5% that needs to have the BMW experience even in your SUV, then maybe it isn't the ride for you.
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I kinda knew what I was getting into but this forum has gavin me info on alot of issues. Plus having an indy mechanic definetly saved me alot of $$$. I will definitly get another x5 when this one's time is up.
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Sure would.
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Thank you guys for the "Cold shower" since I was getting very attach to this X5 idea, It just rides so nice and it feels so solid, But after I have learn from your postings we are just going to walk away from the dream of having a X5.

Is kind of funny, in the motorcycle world the big BMW GS's, Are totally under power, kind of slow, handle kind of weird and for sure are very heavy but they are so dependable and easy to work on (the older ones more than the newer ones) you just develop a incredible trust since they never let you down, I have purchase and sold a few bikes over the years specially two KTM 950's (made in Austria) because I just got tired of working on them when parts catastrophically fail (with less than 30,000miles on them I was stranded 4 times, with the BMW's never and I have about 15times than many more miles) even if they where far more fun to ride and way more capable in the dirt.

So I guess Japanese it is for this new family, Maybe someday when we have more money we can buy a new x9 with all the warranty's and let BMW take the lost on all the broken/damage/defective parts, but is not on the cards today.
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absolutely, in-fact i had no idea that anyone thought any thing but they were excellent well built cars, my experience with work associates etc was that everyone was more than happy, in fact most people were repeat purchasers.

it wasn't till i came here that i started to worry that maybe i had bought a vehicle that was going to bring me grief, i started to worry over every little thing

however after having put 40,000 km and one year on my 2005 3.0d, i have to say i am very happy and would buy another.

however i have to say i dont cheap skate on servicing, i have mine looked at every 10,000 km and what ever needs doing gets done, i also am paid an allowance to maintain a vehicle so its not coming out of my disposable income, that said i haven't experienced any of the problems discussed here ( except for the "Lurch" that is, and after having the trans fluid replaced and software up grade that has been rectified)

i recently had the opportunity to ride in a friends toyota kluger (spelling?) and while toyota has a very high reputation for quality i felt it was a light weight and cheaply built car compared to my X5

all said im very happy with my X and subscribe to the "ultimate driving machine philosophy"

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