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Old 04-21-2018, 12:07 PM
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Thank you ard. Much appreciated. I will be making some calls tomorrow morning as they may be ripping me off.
Dealer quote all with labour:

Wheel Bearing CAD 1,150
Control Arms CAD 2,500
Tire Rods CAD 1,700

Plus 13% Sales Tax = CAD 6,000
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Dealer quote all with labour:

Wheel Bearing CAD 1,150
Control Arms CAD 2,500
Tire Rods CAD 1,700

Plus 13% Sales Tax = CAD 6,000
Wow lol

But why did you go to the dealer?
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Holy Mackarel....

2500 for control arms? That is some kind of record price. Seriously.

They are almost surely using no-name aftermarket parts, calling them 'OEM". (See my sig for the real meaning of OE and OEM).

Going with BMW parts, it is $600 in parts and MAX 4 hours. (A good mechanic can do it in under one hour). Add the alignment.

IMO you need to leave this shop and never go back. Unfortunately, they have decided you are a mark to be screwed over. Even if you cut the prices IN HALF, it is still a screwing.

THis work is not hard nor is it particularly delicate nor does it need great skill. An easy DIY.

Find someone who isn't going to take a summer vacation in your job.
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Have the car shipped down to TX. I'll do it for free and ship it back to you. It'll be cheaper. Seriously though, that's quite a rip-off.
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Holy Mackarel....

2500 for control arms? That is some kind of record price. Seriously.

They are almost surely using no-name aftermarket parts, calling them 'OEM". (See my sig for the real meaning of OE and OEM).

Going with BMW parts, it is $600 in parts and MAX 4 hours. (A good mechanic can do it in under one hour). Add the alignment.

IMO you need to leave this shop and never go back. Unfortunately, they have decided you are a mark to be screwed over. Even if you cut the prices IN HALF, it is still a screwing.

THis work is not hard nor is it particularly delicate nor does it need great skill. An easy DIY.

Find someone who isn't going to take a summer vacation in your job.
This is the dealer quote in Toronto - nit the shop I went to. This is a part of me calling around after the shop I went to earlier quoted me 1,600 for control arms, tire rods and alignment. Plus about 800 for the front left bearring. Labour included. I had reached out to 2 other shops for quotes but they havent gotten back to me yet - all booked and too busy for now - waiting for Monday.
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Wow lol

But why did you go to the dealer?
Called a few shops and a dealer to check if my original quote is in the ball park and the dealer was the only one who provided quote so far.
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Called a few shops and a dealer to check if my original quote is in the ball park and the dealer was the only one who provided quote so far.
Going to garage for that alignment...Havent driven last 4 days to preserve tires. All the BMW specialists are too busy for even a quote! I firmed up the quote with my original shop and all parts are OEM except the feicking bearing that is OM - still CAD 585! Using ard's link BMW of South Atlanta it comes up as USD 370 less discount so USD 277 which is CAD 350! I should have stopped by there on my way from Florida had I known about all this and bought 4 of those bearings! Sent the link to both garage and the dealer - they charge Canadian price of CAD 585, cant help with US deals and the dealer says its back ordered from Germany 10 b. days!

I give up - will pay CAD 585. Dealer also confirmed its pricing fir parts only: CAD 565 per upper control arm/strut x2, CAD 295 per tie rod x2 and that favourite bearing of mine..as above...CAD 585, so for reference parts at dealer are CAD 2.4k plus 13% tax CAD 2.8k. My garage guote is CAD 355 x2, CAD 130 x2, and...CAD 585 so CAD 1,555 plus 13% tax CAD 1,757. I am getting charged 4.5 hrs of labour for the above at CAD 120 - strange but couldn't bring that down. Also will do break fluid flush and cabin air filter replacement while there ti feel better... and yes that alignment that originally showed up there for last week. All-in parts and labour with tax CAD 2,870. Had oil changed last week at that place ..CAD 200 with 2 litres of extra to go. Will ask for before and after print, 0.01 toe all around and neutral cumber fir the rears as per ard's advice. Hope my new Continental Sport non-RF tires will be safe AND quiet after...)

So with 2 new sets of tires I just had to replace, I am down CAD 6k in 5 months of ownership. Excludes prepurchase repairs and maintenance split between me and dealer who I bought it from. Hope to drive for a couple of years with all these new parts ))) This repair thing with BMW, while somewhat expected, is like all back to my younger years driving old cars and constantly thinking of what whole needs to be plugged first. Its no longer just a car, it is a...forced...hobby))

This makes me miss my Acura TSX that I had for 8+ years since new and just sold, made in Japan...the most reliable car I could imagine. The only think I did in addition to service was to change the breaks at 80k kms, otherwise even tires were still good!
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Update
Brought in the car for the above suspension work and had the alignment reading printed before any work was done. The whole thing was so off and I just had alignment dine at Midas in February!!! Good news is that itexplains everything. The front toes were 0.49 left and 0.29 right !!! and they actually wore exactly like the numbers indicate - front left outside half tire gone in 3k miles and the right outside half was a bit better.

New struts, tie rods, left bearing, new alignment done while the engine is running and there is a person in the driver's seat - BMW specs for toes 0.05 - 0.12, and me standing right there saying 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 0.01... ended up at 0.05 fronts and 0.08 and 0.12 rears as rears bolts are partially ceased so no smooth adjustment was possible. I am going back... already emailed them. I want smaller numbers for toes. May end up having bolts changed to get rears equal and lower.

The car drives quiet now! Feels better/tighter steering wheel feel is better as well. Comparing to how it used to feel a bit more loose, I think I can appreciate there was some play in the front suspension and steering even though not obvious.

My impression of noisy Continental Sports were faulty - it was the front left wheel bearing! Its so much quieter now! A bit mushier vs Bridgestones RF but probably this geeling will be soon forgotten. The shop suggested I deflate from 42 to 40psi all around and they did it for me. I am thinking if max pressure is 51psi, whats the max I can safely pump it too cold, given the Summer is coming? My Acura had real time pressure gauges in all 4 wheels so it was possible to check prwssure while driving, but not on X5. I recall differences in the Summer during highway drive were about 20% (235 kPa cold would become 280 kPa on a hot day while on a highway). So if this ratio holds for BMW X5 on Continental Sport, which may be very different, If I have 40psi cold, my hot pressure during Summer highway is about 48psi which is within max 51psi thoughts? Anyone has tried pumping to 42 or higher during the Summer?
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I run Michelin Latitude Sport 3 non run flats on a staggered 20" setup.
I run 44psi front 42 psi rear.
Our summers here will quite often hit 40degrees Celsius
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Old 04-26-2018, 08:39 AM
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I run Michelin Latitude Sport 3 non run flats on a staggered 20" setup.
I run 44psi front 42 psi rear.
Our summers here will quite often hit 40degrees Celsius
All good


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Thanks Chris, have you checked pressure while the tires are hot? Whats the max allowed? Did you feel the difference in fuel economy or anything else?
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