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Old 04-16-2006, 12:59 AM
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Stupid person needs help

I have an '04 4.4i with DSP and Assist

I want bluetooth and voice recognition. I also want to keep Assist.

I would also like to keep my phone in the armrest (I've got a CPT 9000 in the car right now, so I've already got the armrest cradle and the microphone) and I would also like it to be connected to an antenna and a power source (so it can charge) while it's there.

I've searched the forum and it sounds like I can do at least SOME of this stuff, and maybe even all of it. However, there seem to be 3 basic "paths": the upgraded TCU path, the OEM BT retrofit path and the VR module path. I've managed to confused the heck out of myself trying to figure out which of these paths, or which combination, I need to go down to get where I want to be - or whether I need to go down another path entirely.

I can't believe I'm the first/only person to try to accomplish this, so there MUST be someone out there who's already done this mod or at least knows how. Whomever that person is... HEEELLLPPPP!!!

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Old 04-16-2006, 01:17 AM
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I don't think you can keep the CPT phone and have bt at the same time...
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I'm not trying to keep the cpt phone

it's actually a POS and I'd like to replace it with a BT phone - WITH VR.

Sorry, I should have clarified that.
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Read a few of these articles/threads and see if they help.

From BT forum: LINK

From BT section: LINK ----------- LINK

So here's my take. You can install the BT/assist module from an 05' to work in your 04' with no problem. In order to have VR, you will need to install a separate VR module. You will already have power and car antenna accessability in your armrest.

Read these articles/links, and come back with any other questions.

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Thanks Greg, that helps a lot, but a few more Q's

I had read some of those, but hadn't been able to put it all together. Your post w/the links really helped.

To summarize:
  • For BT w/Assist, I will need the '05 TCU. That's the ONLY way to get BT w/Assist.
  • For VR, I will need the VR module - although I'm not so sure about this.
  • I will need the proper snap-in for my phone so I can put it in the center console
  • I will need either a bumper antenna from BMW or a window antenna and this will need to be routed to the center console and connected to the snap-in. I'm not so sure about this, either, since one of the links discussed connecting the BMW bumper antenna to a connection in the LR quarter panel.
  • didn't find anything about charging the phone in the cradle
Still confused about VR: Do I need a separate module or is VR now integrated into the '05 TCU? I had read (somewhere - can't find the link) that people with the '05 TCU didn't need the separate VR module.

Still confused about the antenna: what antenna does the CPT 9000 (my current phone) use? Why can't I use it with a BT phone? This link: http://www.xoutpost.com/articles/all-...bluetooth.html discusses an antenna connection in the LR quarter panel - as if the X5 is pre-wired for an antenna in the center console. However, my service advisor at BMW told me that if I upgrade to the '05 TCU, I won't have an integrated antenna.

Still wondering about charging the phone in the cradle: The Moto E815 uses the same charging/power connection as the V60s/CPT 9000. If the V60 can charge in the cradle, it seems to me I should be able to use the same connection to charge the E815. Has anyone done this?

Once again, Thanks in advance for all the help!
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I had read some of those, but hadn't been able to put it all together. Your post w/the links really helped.

To summarize:
  • For BT w/Assist, I will need the '05 TCU. That's the ONLY way to get BT w/Assist. That is my understanding, yes.
  • For VR, I will need the VR module - although I'm not so sure about this. That is my understanding as well. Anyone here with an 05' can verify.
  • I will need the proper snap-in for my phone so I can put it in the center console Yup, get the one for the MOTO V710
  • I will need either a bumper antenna from BMW or a window antenna and this will need to be routed to the center console and connected to the snap-in. I'm not so sure about this, either, since one of the links discussed .connecting the BMW bumper antenna to a connection in the LR quarter panel.You should already have the bumper antenna. To confirm, take apart the armrest and look for either a purple FAKRA connector, or a mini-coax connector, that is your antenna
  • didn't find anything about charging the phone in the cradle
Still confused about VR: Do I need a separate module or is VR now integrated into the '05 TCU? I had read (somewhere - can't find the link) that people with the '05 TCU didn't need the separate VR module. Your eject box should charge the phone, the black connector under the armrest is powered.
Still confused about the antenna: what antenna does the CPT 9000 (my current phone) use? Why can't I use it with a BT phone? This link: http://www.xoutpost.com/articles/all-...bluetooth.html discusses an antenna connection in the LR quarter panel - as if the X5 is pre-wired for an antenna in the center console. However, my service advisor at BMW told me that if I upgrade to the '05 TCU, I won't have an integrated antenna.

Still wondering about charging the phone in the cradle: The Moto E815 uses the same charging/power connection as the V60s/CPT 9000. If the V60 can charge in the cradle, it seems to me I should be able to use the same connection to charge the E815. Has anyone done this?

Once again, Thanks in advance for all the help!
I have an 02', and I already had the bumper antenna factory installed. I also use a MOTO E815, and it is powered by my eject box.
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Did you install the MOTO 815 yourself?

Are you telling me that the v710 snap-in works for the E815?

Thanks again for all the help Greg. I've made more progress in one morning than I have in the past week.
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Are you telling me that the v710 snap-in works for the E815?

Thanks again for all the help Greg. I've made more progress in one morning than I have in the past week.
Yes, it does, the part number is 84-21-0-393-570. I know because I took a chance and bought the one for the 710, and it worked.
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does the snap-in come with any wiring

for the antenna and/or for the power hook-up? Or is that something I need to buy separately?

Sorry about all the questions, but I'm coming to discover that what my BMW mechanic said was not possible, appears to be not only possible, but actually fairly straightforward. What bothers me about this is that he's worked on my cars for more than 10 years, has become sort of a friend, and was just recently promoted to shop foreman. I've always taken his word as gospel.
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Old 04-16-2006, 03:32 PM
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for the antenna and/or for the power hook-up? Or is that something I need to buy separately?

Sorry about all the questions, but I'm coming to discover that what my BMW mechanic said was not possible, appears to be not only possible, but actually fairly straightforward. What bothers me about this is that he's worked on my cars for more than 10 years, has become sort of a friend, and was just recently promoted to shop foreman. I've always taken his word as gospel.
No, the "eject box" has the wiring. The "snap-in" cradle does just that, it snaps-in to the eject box. Not surprising about your mechanic, many are clueless.

Eject box only shown

Eject box with V710 snap-in shown

Eject box with snap-in and MOTO E815 shown
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