DSP BMW & Knowledge

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If you care to read all this, please let me know who's "not getting it"

Originally Posted by Person 1

Do you have pictures of it? does it have a long cable to go up to the front or is it supposed to be trunk mounted? I also have an X5, but not sure if it has DSP as well. I'm assuming yours just comes with the DSP module and I could just not use it if I don't need it for the X5, is this correct?

Originally Posted by Person 2

Dammit...your pm just reminded me that i forgot to take pics. All the parts are in my storage unit and i took pics this weekend and forgot about the Dice. Yes, it has the long cable to run from trunk. It basically plugs into your CD changer and replaces the CD functions on your display/NAV. I sold the DSP unit when i purchased...the E53 "iS" models were equipped with DSP from factory. Here's an image of the Silverline Pro from BSW:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/im.../ssdice007.jpg

Originally Posted by Person 1

I'm confused. Your thread says "Dice Silverline Pro iPod connector (for DSP equipped system only)", but it sounds like you sold the DSP module. Which would mean it is for non-DSP equipped cars.
Basically it is my understanding that for my DSP M5 the kit would consist of the dice box and a similar looking dsp module box, plus all the wiring. If you only have one "box" I'm afraid this would not work for me.

Originally Posted by Person 2

Okay...if your vehicle comes equipped with DSP, then you do not need the DSP unit. Non DSP vehicles require the DSP unit...make sense?

Originally Posted by Person 1

I'm sorry but I'm fairly confident you have it backwards.
The Dice DSP module is an adapter for cars equipped with DSP (Digital Signal Processing), a non-DSP car has an analog signal. The adapter converts the analog signal to a digital signal that the DSP amp can understand.

Originally Posted by Person 2

Well...considering that i've just sold my 4th X5 in the last 10 years and have been driving BMW's for 15 years...i'm fairly certain i actually know what i'm talking about. I think you're just confusing it. Several people have contacted me about it and knew exactly what i meant by the listing. It's simple...if your vehicle is not equipped with DSP, then yes, you will require an adapter for the Dice to work. If your vehicle already has DSP, then viola.

Don't know what else to tell ya...hope you find what you're looking for.

Originally Posted by Person 1

I didn't know we were comparing BMW experience, but I have 4 BMWs, right now.
BMW DSP Adapter | BSW
"If you do not have DSP, you DO NOT need the DSP Adapter."

Originally Posted by Person 2

You have to understand the key word in the link you provided..."some"

"Some (but not all) vehicles equipped with DSP may require a special "DSP adapter" to install certain aftermarket accessories."

Having done similar mods to our other vehicles, i already knew my vehicle came equipped with DSP and certainly didn't require a "DSP adapter"...i ordered the kit, DSP adapter came with it...didn't need it. Perhaps you should contact DICE or BSW to confirm exactly what your vehicle needs.

Originally Posted by Person 1

I understand the keyword, but I'm afraid you don't understand the context. Having DSP doesn't mean you don't need the adapter, it means you'll most likely need it. If you do not have DSP you do not need the adapter, no questions asked (unlike what you said previously, about non-dsp cars needing it and dsp cars not needing it).
If you take the time to read that page you will see that '02+ cars with DSP may or may not require the adapter. Any car before '02 that has DSP will need the adapter.

So what that means for me is that I will most definitely need the adapter for my M5 that has DSP, and I may or may not need the adapter for my X5.

Thank you for your time.

Originally Posted by Person 2

Look...from your very first response, you essentially tell me that i don't know what the hell i'm talking about. Yet, you've got it figured out, right? If you understood the "context", then you'd see that the vendor, like most, isn't exactly sure what you require either. "Some"..."may or may not" isn't exactly assuring confirmation, is it?

I didn't experience your issue the least bit...4 current BMW's should make you aware that most vendors are clueless when it comes to your car....good luck.

There's 2 more quotes but I only have one of them and it's basically a repeat of the above. So please someone clear this up for us (him).