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Marc-x · #1 09-18-2007, 09:02 PM

Hi Jochen.

I'm having some serious problems after coding my NAV unit with your "Navcoder": The nav system was originally set up for Europe, 16:9 monitor, upgraded to MkIV DVD and a BM54 radio (I THINK).

Because I wanted the "NAGSCREEN" (US version) to customize for displaying a funny message, I swithed to US using Navcoder ver. 2.2.1
Often I get error messages from Navcoder stating there is some incorrect parameter or something similar...

After playig arround with Navcoder for a while (experimenting with most options, coding the radio to another model etc...) I realize that I've lost som functionality in my NAV system, the TMC is not working correctly and my ASSIST is gone.

I often get the TMC indication in RED now. When pressing "INFO" button to toggle the RDS-TMC i can see it's swithed OFF! Only way to have TMC status "GREEN" is to toggle ignition ON-OFF. Earlier there were ALWAYS a TMC symbol on the screen: GREY when not active, RED when not receiving, and GREEN when up and running. Now the GREY TMC doesn't come on at all.

Using the NAVIGATION menu to activate it I realize that several menu items has disapeared !!! (I used to have "Traffic Info" and "T-info Plus" in the menus. Because if this I can't switch TMC on, or configure it.
Before using the Navcoder software everything worked just fine, but now it don't.
I can't test TMC where I live since there is no TMC broadcasts, but during the vacation this summer in Sweden it worked flawlessly.

Another thing is that my ASSIST function is gone!
It also has disappeared from the main menu on the nav screen... Instead there is an entry "EMERGENCY". From here you can't make an emergency call...

Do you have the HEX codes for activating (coding) these things???
Is there a HEX code for resetting the radio / nav unit to factory config

Do I really have to go to BMW to have the system re-coded?? (Expensive...)

Please help me track down the reason for this and what to do to correct the problem!

The car is an e46 330d Individual -02

Kind regards

///M

KiwiJochen · #2 09-19-2007, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc-x

Hi Jochen.

I'm having some serious problems after coding my NAV unit with your "Navcoder": The nav system was originally set up for Europe, 16:9 monitor, upgraded to MkIV DVD and a BM54 radio (I THINK).

Because I wanted the "NAGSCREEN" (US version) to customize for displaying a funny message, I swithed to US using Navcoder ver. 2.2.1
Often I get error messages from Navcoder stating there is some incorrect parameter or something similar...

NOTE: the USA does not use TMC, and possibly does not use Assist.

Hence setting Region=USA may disable the TMC options in the nav.

I've never tried Region=USA, so don't have any experience.

First thing to do is set Region back to Europe

As for assist, did you check the box in NavCoder?

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Originally Posted by Marc-x

Another thing is that my ASSIST function is gone!
It also has disappeared from the main menu on the nav screen... Instead there is an entry "EMERGENCY". From here you can't make an emergency call...

More evidence that in Region=USA mode, the menu options change for the US market.

Set your Region back to Europe.

Regardless of what happened, NavCoder always records the current configuration in the nav before it changes anything.

To be sure, you should make a backup of the Navcoder.log file, and keep it. If you are still stuck, you can send me the log file and I can look at the old original settings.

Regards, Jochen

Marc-x · #3 09-19-2007, 03:34 AM

Hi Jochen.

As I wrote in my other thread, the problem is partially fixed now.
I also thougt about the USA config causing the problem. If USA doesn't use TMC then this is probably the case. Will try to switch back to USA and see what happens.

Is it possible to enable the "nagscreen" in European mode?
It is pretty funny when displaying a customized text...

And yes, I checked "Assist" -option in Navcoder together with "Auto Emergency call"

I have noticed some odd behaviour in Navcoder:

If you repeatedly use "READ NAV" the read telematics data occationally seems to move arround. That is the "SMSC Centre" number sometimes become the "SMS Number" or vice versa. (I don't recall att the moment EXACTLY which way arround it went, but I noticed the problem. Also "Navcoder" often gives an error message saying something like "error verifying SMSC / SMS Number" (or something similar with that meaning.)

Will try some more in a little while and post back my findings!

///M

KiwiJochen · #4 09-19-2007, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc-x

As I wrote in my other thread, the problem is partially fixed now.

How? what did you do to fix it?

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Originally Posted by Marc-x

Is it possible to enable the "nagscreen" in European mode?

No.

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Originally Posted by Marc-x

If you repeatedly use "READ NAV" the read telematics data occationally seems to move arround. That is the "SMSC Centre" number sometimes become the "SMS Number" or vice versa. (I don't recall att the moment EXACTLY which way arround it went, but I noticed the problem. Also "Navcoder" often gives an error message saying something like "error verifying SMSC / SMS Number" (or something similar with that meaning.)

If you do things too quickly, you can confuse the information.
This is because everything on the databaus is serial, and there is no way no tie a response to a command.

If you issue a 3 x commands, you will get 3 x responses.
But if you send 3 x commands straight after one another, you won't know which response belongs to which command.
Also, a very busy databus makes it even harder.

To reduce this problem:

1. Ensure the timeout value is set to something like 1000 ms
2. Wait for one command to timeout before you send another, otherwise confusion will result
3. Switch off the radio - it reduces the databus traffic enormously and thus makes bus communication more reliable.
4. Leave ignition at Pos1, not Pos2. This also reduces the data traffic.

And as for NavCoder error messages, I need a logfile, plus you need to tell me what car and what interface you have, and what you were doing when the error happened.

Regards, Jochen

Marc-x · #5 09-19-2007, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen

How? what did you do to fix it?

And as for NavCoder error messages, I need a logfile, plus you need to tell me what car and what interface you have, and what you were doing when the error happened.

Regards, Jochen

I just downgraded to an ORIGINAL, untouched version of the Nav OS, verified that everything worked OK. (European config).

ASSIST still missing, but haven't set the telematics settings yet.

Upgraded to my "Custom" ver 29.1 and verified that everyting works. (Still in European mode). Everything works fine, except Assist, but still haven't fixed the telematics settings.

Will try some more with Navcoder this afternoon and post my findings and some log snippets if there is some strange behaviour.

Car as in my signature. Interface is homebuilt from schematics in your release, heavily shielded, installed permanently in trunk, and attached to the CD-changer cable loom. The cable to the computer is also shielded and connects to the car with a high quality "medical" type locking connector...

Kind regards

///M

aise · #6 09-19-2007, 06:14 AM

can i code DSP amp with NavCoder? i know that there are some options.

KiwiJochen · #7 09-19-2007, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by aise

can i code DSP amp with NavCoder? i know that there are some options.

Not yet, maybe in the future

Odia The Ultimate · #8 09-20-2007, 06:04 AM

Hi Jochen,

Can I just check something with you?

I coded a Gen 3 BT ULF to VR using NavCoder and I only have the Telephone and Notepad command sets, there apppears to be no voice controls for the Nav System, is this to be expected or is there something wrong?

Odia.

davidr · #9 09-20-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Odia The Ultimate

Hi Jochen,

Can I just check something with you?

I coded a Gen 3 BT ULF to VR using NavCoder and I only have the Telephone and Notepad command sets, there apppears to be no voice controls for the Nav System, is this to be expected or is there something wrong?

Odia.

My X3 was the same for first few minutes until ULF had correctly configured itself. In UK VR help does not mention nav commands. Try saying "map" a few times to train the ULF? Seemed to work for me eventually.

Try "petrol stations at current location" - should go into a search menu and return result set.

Ajay(UK) · #10 09-20-2007, 02:14 PM

Or maybe your Mic isn't working or connected properly! If you Nav loom has the blue connector for the separate voice control module that normally bolts beneath the Nav computer then yes you would need the SES jumper plug as this completes the wiring circuit!