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Old 02-03-2014, 01:00 AM
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Hey Fariz, I know right! Hope you're keeping well. Yeah it's still going on strong only problem I find with it in the winter the lens gets filthy and you can't see anything through it but maybe that's a sign that I need to clean my car more often so thanks again for your help on that!

Watched the video that looks sweet man! How do you find the sound through the AV channel because isn't the TV tuner input Mono only?
the problem with that camera is the camera itself... cheap chinese crap... on the other hand, it is cheap chinese crap - thus, easily replaceable... lol... i've had this problem with my setup for years, first on the 4.6 - the car was in tropics and the rain season had no mercy... the camera itself is not watertight - water or its vapors make their way into the back side of the lens, and cloud the lens... the only remedy is to "sahara" the mothaphucker - keep it in hot and dry environment in hopes that the water will escape the camera... keeping the camera under direct sun for couple of days cleared the issue.. until the next rain came along... lol... still, no reason to go for a more expensive cameras - believe me, they are made at the same chinese plant!!!

On the AV setup... you got this right, the factory TV module is mono only...

but, since this particular setup can only be realised with the use of a TV-in-motion harness (so you can see the google maps on the screen while in motion), the same aftermarket module allows you to play your current audio input (say, your favorite radio, or a favorite MP3 tune from your AUX input) while switching the screen to "muted" TV picture... the reason i say "muted", because the TV picture is muted, but your speakers are still playing the sound from your favorite AUX input...

at this point (drum roll!!)... you re-route the red/white (audio) cables going from the HDMI-to-RCA converter to TV mono audio input to the AUX input... VOILA!!!

you effectively play stereo sound through your AUX input and the picture through your TV module's video input... you need to use a red/white RCA plugs on one end of the cable, and the other end of the cable terminates in 3.5mm plug for the AUX input...

then, you start playing google maps or pandora on your phone... from main screen of your nav (menu screen) select AUX input...

then, you press the "clock" symbol on the nav monitor - many of those aftermarket TV-in-motion modules use "clock" button for this function, - and hold the "clock" for 5-7 seconds... it brings up the picture from the phone on the screen (while the AUX was already playing the sound)...

In my particular setup i am trying to achieve completely wireless "integration" of the cell phone, thus i have couple extra steps...

I need to shoot a new video with improved imagery and i will post it...

it sounds much more complicated in words than it is in reality...
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Old 02-05-2014, 05:33 PM
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Thanks for posting this Term !

I have been debating for a while on how I was going to do video integration on the E53 screen. I usually use a nav on tv adapter but the last install I did on a friends E38 I was not happy with the contrast and darkness settings.

I'm hoping the OEM TV module can produce a nice clean picture on the screen with no too dim to see output.

So if I am following you correctly I'll need an OEM TV module for my
05/06 Build E53 (P/N Range?)
I'll need to code the module VIA the IBUS with NAVCODER for TV in motion.

My next step would be to find a way to connect the output of my phone (LG Nexus 4) to the tv module. (Wireless hopefully) Like you did with your HTC dock.

Looks like my Nexus 4 supports wifi display and plays nice with this netgear unit from the sound of the reviews.



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Old 02-05-2014, 09:40 PM
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seems that you are on the right path, even though the output of your phone is HDMI (wired or wireless) and the TV screen is lousy 640 x whatever... which i don't know if a way to improve that as the video is gone through the TV module and can't be "enhanced"... so, it will be crappy...

as far as motion unlock - i use a hardware microcontroller for the unlock, that gives me two features - it allows me to turn the TV-in-motion ON and OFF (i guess for law enforcement or technical inspection pass) and also allows to pass an alternative sound source... without the hardware you might only have the mono... i am not sure about this one...

on your Nexus picture i spy an additional device next to TV, probably the actual receiver... does it have to have a stand alone wifi router? the HTC uses a router too but in absence of one, connects directly to the gadget...

i'd like to see your execution of this as well as any other possible solutions... keep us posted...
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Old 02-05-2014, 11:27 PM
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seems that you are on the right path, even though the output of your phone is HDMI (wired or wireless) and the TV screen is lousy 640 x whatever... which i don't know if a way to improve that as the video is gone through the TV module and can't be "enhanced"... so, it will be crappy...

Understood. Tell me this, if I say watch netfix on the monitor will it be very small and not to the proper scale of the screen? Since it's 1080 content on a device outputting 1080?

as far as motion unlock - i use a hardware microcontroller for the unlock, that gives me two features - it allows me to turn the TV-in-motion ON and OFF (i guess for law enforcement or technical inspection pass) and also allows to pass an alternative sound source... without the hardware you might only have the mono... i am not sure about this one...

Interesting... How many video inputs does the OEM TV module have? Just 1 aux in or is there also one for backup camera? Will I need a OEM backup camera module to integrate a camera video feed in?

on your Nexus picture i spy an additional device next to TV, probably the actual receiver... does it have to have a stand alone wifi router? the HTC uses a router too but in absence of one, connects directly to the gadget...

Built in routing Term. it receives the wifi display signal and converts it to HDMI output.
The device in the pic is shown twice once in foreground enlarged for detail as it is quite small (smaller than a deck of cards) and the other next to the tv showing it connects into the HDMI port of the television.

i'd like to see your execution of this as well as any other possible solutions... keep us posted...
I will definitely keep you posted and contact u for assistance if Term.

What are you using for the hdmi to analog conversion before you input into the tv module?
I've seen straight cable solutions - HDMI male to RCA's for as cheap as 16.00 on fleabay but the reviews are mixed and then the box solutions for 40 and ^ Which do you run?

Also I plan on using the 3.5mm factory aux in to input the audio signal from the HDMI to analog conversion solution. (It's installed in glove box for now)

If I remember correctly didn't you say you tune the audio signal in using the aux input mode and then you can hold the clock button and override the screen with the AUX video input from the tv module and still hear the audio signal from the aux input audio feed?

This is what I want to achieve
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Old 02-06-2014, 12:19 AM
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I will definitely keep you posted and contact u for assistance if Term.

What are you using for the hdmi to analog conversion before you input into the tv module?
I've seen straight cable solutions - HDMI male to RCA's for as cheap as 16.00 on fleabay but the reviews are mixed and then the box solutions for 40 and ^ Which do you run?

Also I plan on using the 3.5mm factory aux in to input the audio signal from the HDMI to analog conversion solution. (It's installed in glove box for now)

If I remember correctly didn't you say you tune the audio signal in using the aux input mode and then you can hold the clock button and override the screen with the AUX video input from the tv module and still hear the audio signal from the aux input audio feed?

This is what I want to achieve
I have seen both, the HDMI-to-RCA cables and HDMI-to-RCA converters... so naturally, i bought a $5 cable... just to find out that the conversion requires a box that converts digital to analogue, and the simple cable can not convert digital to analogue... wasted $5... so, i got $30 box that does the actual conversion, and it has NTSC and PAL switch...

the TV module has dedicated rear camera input that is totally separate from the AV input/output... so, you can have a rear camera and the AV in/out at the same time...


I understand about the wi-fi device, it is the same principle that the HTC is using... so you are good there...

as far as the resolution - the Sharp LCD in our cars is natively resolved at the TV resolution levels, and the converters will put out the picture on the screen at the size that the picture is on your phone - if the Netflix occupies the whole "real estate" on your phone, it will occupy the whole "real estate" on the nav monitor... but the resolution will suffer, as the converter reduces the resolution for the RCA cables...

my ability to use alternative audio source for the picture is derived from the aftermarket tv-in-motion gadget as the TV module itself does not allow for choice of audio inputs... so, you would have to get that gadget and abandon the idea of the tv-in-motion programming (unless that programming also "unleashes" the ability to choose alternative audio input). with that gadget in place, you will need to get RCA-to-3.5mm audio cable (red and white only), connect them to the HDMI-to-RCA converter and to the AUX, and you are there!!!...

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Old 02-06-2014, 12:43 AM
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That makes perfect sense!

Can you link me to the HDMI to RCA converter your using please.

I see tons on ebay but almost all say RCA in to HDMI out and NOT BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE in the description.

Also can you link me to the aftermarket tv in motion gadget you speak of that enables the alt audio source overlayed while tv module is displaying aux video source on the monitor.

Thanks for the help Term!
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Amazon.com : Mini White HDMI to 3RCA Composite AV Converter For TV/PC/PS3/Blue-ray DVD : Video Converters : Electronics

this one will call for a power source... I used this one, hardwired

DC 12V to 5V 3A 15W Waterproof DC Converter Mini USB Car Power Adapter | eBay

also, here is a link to the RCA-to-3.5mm cable

New Audio 3 5mm Male to 2 RCA Audio Y Converter Aux Auxiliary Cable SPC 1693 | eBay


my German sucks (non-existent!!) but i think this one talks about Video Overlay Mode, which is what we need... audio independent of video... About 60 euros... but you have to check with the seller about shipping to US and if he will remove the VAT (in europe about 20%) for non-EU sales...

BMW TV Freischaltung TV Free E38 E39 E46 X3 X5 Z4 und Range Rover 2002 | eBay
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Old 02-12-2014, 02:11 AM
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Here, on the first picture you can see the wireless Media Link HD from HTC, that takes a wireless signal from an HTC phone and sends it out in HDMI format... which in turn is converted into RCA format, which feeds into the car - the video portion is fed to the video input of the TV module and the audio portion is fed through a Y-splitter into the AUX input of the radio. The other end of the Y-splitter is taking just audio from iLive BT unit - if I don't want to have the phone image on the main screen, say because i am in on-board computer calculating my MPGs or whatever, and i just listen to radio app on the phone...

when my particular phone is playing radio app via the BT unit, it is putting sound out using "Beats" audio... when i make a switch from BT streaming to HDMI streaming, the phone switches the audio output from BT broadcast stream into the Media stream that goes to the wireless HDMI unit, and the audio from the HDMI unit is fed into the same AUX via the second leg of the Y-splitter - the transition in audio is almost seamless... however, the HDMI stream is NOT the "Beats" stream, and I can hear the difference in base... I am not an audiophile, so I care less - if I need to, i just will adjust the DSP...

I am happy with the car's side of this setup but I am not happy with the phone side of the setup, thus I am still tweaking it... I do not like the power management of the HTC phone - in my opinion, when a phone is connected to an adequate power supply, it should not draw its energy from the battery and depleting the battery to 0% in one hour while still connected to power source. I should be able to jump on I-95 in CT and ride it all the way to FL and the phone should not lose a single percent of battery charge while connected to the power supply. And the one I am using is a 3A supply - which I will replace with a 10 A supply, just to eliminate the PS as a possible problem... (I think the problem is in the phone's power management software/firmware - factory phone charger is only a 1 A)

Also, I noticed some glitches in the wireless connection to the HDMI unit - the BT connection to the AUX has been flawless for last few months that i was playing with it, but the connection to the HDMI seems to be losing some packets in the transmission... it is still work in progress...

on the second picture you see the power supplies for those units - they all demand 5V power via micro USB or mini USB - the supplies are wired to my power wake-on-LAN circuitry, which cuts them off once the car is gone into sleep. all of them off ebay, for about $3-5 a piece...

and don't mind the third picture - it is my DVR installation in progress...
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