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X5audi 06-14-2008 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by x54.4blue
In todays world with gas at $4.00 to $5.00 a gal I would never get a V or a M.

I wonder how the output 6 CTS stacks up against a 535 or a 335?
It doesn't ;)

On this one, BMW gets all the credit. Cadillac managed to make their 300hp DI V6 both slower and less efficient than the competition.

X5audi 06-14-2008 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FSETH
What about hte Caddy XLR Roadster @ $82k? You could buy that or a 650i convert for the same price? Which would you chose? Which one is the better overall car?

What G said was also like saying where is Ferrari's sub $70k M3 beater?

Of course you pay for refinement. I never said the M3 was cheap. If it were a cost contest the Caddy would win (only by a few grand), but we were talking about the better car, not the cheaper car.
The XLR is a dud, don't even bring it up. Worst in its class, even worse than the Lexus whale :rofl:

As for one of your other posts, comparing the E46 to old CTS-V, well... Cadillac has made a huge jump, because they had a ton of room for improvement. BMW has only made a baby-step. They don't have much room to improve. That's why the new C AMG and previous-gen RS4 seemed to catch up to it so quickly.

X5audi 06-14-2008 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by FSETH
I hear you Wagner, but the CTS-V is probably going to land just a few grand shy of an M3 sedan. We are most likely not talking tens of thousands of dollars or 20%-30% more. M5/M6's are way out of the CTS-V's league and really aren't even comparable.
You're right, the CTS-V is much faster.

Wagner 06-14-2008 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by X5audi
It doesn't ;)

On this one, BMW gets all the credit. Cadillac managed to make their 300hp DI V6 both slower and less efficient than the competition.
I'd agree, however I doubt the 335 was their competition. The 535 would probably be a "yes" however, again..Caddy comes in far cheaper the the Bimmer counterpart. That of course is a throw back to all our earlier posts ;)

E61Silver 06-14-2008 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by X5audi
It doesn't ;)

On this one, BMW gets all the credit. Cadillac managed to make their 300hp DI V6 both slower and less efficient than the competition.
It burns regular, I think that was more important to them than just hp


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