True, but at a substantial cost.

Gotta pay to play. ;) Different drivers want different things.

EDIT: I think the Big 3 are the only ones that don't deliver that tactility though, even at sub-German price points.

Take the average American road, generally straight......take the average Euro road :) And the Germans aren't the only ones with the focus on handling.

Stupid fast.

Check ninja edit. :)

Indeed, and that's how you end up with a live-axle in a modern sports-car (Mustang). :nanana:

Can't believe you called that a sports car :)

That is why the US market invented the words "Muscle Car"

To quote Yotaka Katayama when he came to the states "..we need a faster car."

To give credit to GM, I read that this new CTS's suspension is supposed to be pretty good and vastly better than the previous one. GM stuff is good when it's developed in Europe, que Opel/Saturn,CTS steering and suspension, etc.

I'm (south) Asian, it's in our blood to give American cars shit [and love Japanese ones]. :)

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Not to mention that Ferrari uses GM designed and build MSRC in the F430....

:p :p

People fail to realize that the big 3 are very capable of building a car with amenities and materials similar to luxury brands like BMW, but it's a matter of DON'T rather than CAN'T.

The Big 3's strategy is to provide vehicles to the masses, not a few hundred thousand annually like a luxury brand, the big 3 do that in a month! :)

You can't expect them to provide vehicles to the masses at a price point that the masses can afford if they use high end materials and install high end amenities. It's an impossibility.

So what happens when a Big 3 vehicle comes close to or surpasses a luxury vehicle in performance? The luxury fan boys have anxiety attacks and scream "But it's GM! GM can't build a luxury car! Their cars suck!" because the supposedly inferior brand dared to challenge their luxo-mobile that cost them thousands more. (reading between the lines translations - their ego is hurt).

Cadillac pulling off a vehicle like the CTS-V at its pricepoint is a HUGE accomplishment for GM. I would like to see BMW/Porsche/Audi/MB do the same thing at the same price point.....

just some thoughts...